Kinda Irks Me!

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waynorth

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I love Schrades, especially the old ones, pre-WWII, but indeed all of 'em. So in my quest for reasonable examples of each pattern, it ticks me off when someone implies a knife is near mint, or near full, and you get it home, and it's been cleaned, and the blade is 1/8", or 1/4", or even more, SHORT!
So I have been measuring them on my screen!
I tape some toothpicks together, to use as dividers, and set the toothpicks up to measure pivot pin to tip of blade. If the pic is straight on the way it should be, I can swing my "dividers" over to see roughly where the blade tip will end up, relative to the end of the knife.
This one looks 1/4" short!
http://cgi.ebay.com/BEAUTIFUL-BONE-...ryZ88912QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It also looks it, just by looking at the picture, but that's what gave me the idea.
Do you agree?
 
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It irks me too. :grumpy:, even the pen blade is worn, he says unused, how do the guys have the nerve or morals to lie through their teeth like that?
 
OK, never mind the short blade, what the hell is that? Is that even a viable Schrade pattern? Judging by the stamp (something kinda suspicious about that as well, or maybe I'm just getting paranoid), it's one of the earliest ones, and I don't recall ever seeing a pattern like that in the earlier Schrades. What's your take on it Charlie? Does it raise some red flags? The only possible explanation I can come up with is that it was discontinued before Cat E. came out.

Eric
 
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I know in the Schrade catalogues the images are just illustrations, although if they are to be believed some of the main clip blades are definately longer than others, especially the knives at the front section of Cat E. Just an 02 guess.

Russell
 
Eric, I've never seen that pattern before. Maybe it's a concoction of parts from the Schrade parts bin. I've not seen that combination of blades in any branding actually.
Curiouser and curiouser!
 
Maybe it is the Holy Grail from Schrade........................................or from a Schrade Chop Shop! :D

Someone has buffed the bolsters, shield & bone pretty heavy.
T would not be suprised if the blades were buffed as well.

just my 2¢,
Dale
 
The 236 Schrade Walden (mine is a recent version from the 60's likely) pattern looks similar, but it is 3 9/16". It does not have a sabre ground blade, seems slimmer too. Bottom cap is longer than the one shown in the auction. That shield appears thicker too. The knife seems stubbier. I could not find that exact pattern either in a Schrade catalog, but it seems I've seen it before though. Is it possible those blades are Schrade Cut Co, but the knife body is something else? The blades look like they might belong on another knife. Maybe the master was shortened and sabre ground at the same time. :confused:

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Not sure about the pattern, but both those blades do look short.

That is frustrating, Charlie...

Glenn
 
It's much "stubbier" than your knife Hal.
Looks like the "Unholy Grail, Dale!:D But I've been wrong many times before!
If I was sure I'd get my money back if needed, I'd bid on the darn thing, just to examine it up close and personal.
 
glennbad said:
Not sure about the pattern, but both those blades do look short.

That is frustrating, Charlie...

Glenn
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Hey Glenn,
I hear you are healing!!:thumbup: I hope it's going well!!

My mom went through a triple, and then went on with life like nothing happened! I'm glad we are not in the middle ages:eek:!
 
Not to jump your thread, but yes, I am healing and doing pretty well.

One day at a time...

Thanks for asking.

Glenn
 
Glad for your good news Glenn!:thumbup: Jump my thread any old time!;)
 
unbelieveable! over 300 dollars! has anyone determined if its a ligit pattern?
glad to hear your on the way to mend glen!!!!!!!!!!!----brady
 
I don't think anyone knows one way or the other Brady. It's interesting for sure, but hard to say when it's not in hand. The blades seem short, the handle seems stubby and unlike anything Schrade ever put out, the bone seems to be pretty close for that period, but why is the part that's been hafted near the bolster darker than the jigged portion? It should be lighter. The tang of the master seems to be ground and hammered, but that might be the photos. More pics would definitely have been in order, especially of the backspring with the blades both open and closed. I'd have been tempted if I had oodles and oodles of cash to burn, but without some documentation of that particular pattern actually being produced, it sure seems like an expensive gamble. But then again.....(see how my mind works? like a friggin' yoyo!). What say you Charlie? Did you go for it?

By the way, speaking of documentation, has anyone ever seen a pre-1926 Schrade catalog? Or Press Button for that matter? It seems as though the A.G. Russell reprint is as far back as I, and I suppose most of you, have ever seen. That leaves about twenty years of unknowns floating around.

Hang in there Glenn! Glad to hear you're coming along fine:thumbup::thumbup:

Eric
 
Wasn't me! I was too suspicious. I hope someone around here went for it, and will post more pictures. I am digging for some matching bone. The closest one so far is on an Ulster, but there are some Schrades that look the same. I'll post them by and by.
 
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