Kinetic opening rescue w/dive probe handle?

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And, while I'm at it with the crazy ideas...

I've heard the ideas about a kinetic opening rescue, similar to the gunting.

Well, I had an idea to add to it.

How about a sheepsfoot kinetic opening rescue - on the end of a dive probe?

Here's my reasoning:

The rescue is intended to cut seatbelts, etc. Many times, it would probably be helpful to also be able to pry with the knife, since seatbelts only usually need to be cut at the scene of an accident.

The extended reach of the handle would be very helpful.

Plus, the point of the ramp would act like a hammer, and would make a great glass breaker.

It would be a great tool for police officers - it would work well for self defense with good textured G-10 slabs on the handle, with a very long reach with the kinetic opening. You could use the guntings' pressure point/joint locks, add some FMA non-lethal stick fighting techniques, and have much the same flow of the gunting.

It would make a great dive knife. Safe, useful, good for getting untangled in seaweed.

I know the dive probe wasn't made for very long. But, I think this would have a far larger potential market.

If you wanted to go all out, you could make the handle out of Titanium, with a frame lock type compression lock. Maybe put some nice holes in the handle to decrease weight.

Make the blade/handles out of Ti and market it to Demolitions teams / mine clearing. Or, make the handles out of Steel with G-10 slabs and the blade out S30V, and market it to LEO's. Color the G-10 orange, sell it to paramedics/firefighters. So many variations would be possible.

With the right sheath, it would be possible to carry it on a belt. Course, it probably would be a pain to carry, depending on handle length. Fortunately, Spyderco also makes the most excellent Gunting, which is much more size friendly.

Just another crazy idea brought to you by...

-- Rob
 
baraqyal,

Bless you Rob, your heart's in the right place but as an EMT and a Master Diver, you're overengineering the heck out of this baby. The Ti handle and sheeps foot works fine for me (Ti is highly corrosion resistant and 45% stronger than steel of the same size). I also like the breaker and pry points for window removal etc. and extra reach idea for seat belt cutting but keep this dude simple. Start adding slabs, and steel handles, you're adding pins/screws and setting up for more points for galvanic (corrosion potential set up between dissimilar metals) and normal corrosion from water intrusion between the slabs and steel. This corrosion is amplified in the presence of the electrolytes in sea water. The original pre-Probe, the TTZ, was a hefty zirconium rod (Zircalloy??)that had exceptional corrosion resistance and could be thrown against a brick wall with no negative effects. If price is no object, let's have THIS beast rise from the ashes and put a good VG-10 or S30V blade on it. Could make a good kubotan too!! Kin-ops on a dive knife would kind of scare me a bit. I dive in some nasty stuff with zero viz sometimes and if using the bar to feel my way along silty bottoms or checking recessed areas, I don't want a change in current causing me to tumble with a kin-op probe in my mitts.

The do-all knife for everytask is like a multi-role jet aircraft. It does some tasks great but sacrifices combat effectiveness in multiple areas when it tries to fulfill every mission plan.

Not bad for a crazy idea - just don't get too crazy and go Vicorinox on us!

Stay safe! Stay sharp!
 
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