kitchen knife help

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I am looking to upgrade my kitchen knives. I have the same cheap p.o.s. knives that I got from a friend as a wedding present. I want to start over and get some decent kitchen knives. I prefer that they come with a block for easy storage. Also I would like to keep the price at around or under $200. Any suggestions?

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-Dennis


 
Dennis,

If memory serves James Mattis had a great thread on kitchen knives... kind of a survey where members indicated their recommendations and experiences. Also commented on was the Comsumer Reports test findings... all in all a great thread.

Try looking (searching) through the 1st year general forum arichive and perhaps the knife review area. Not sure which.

Many of us like what we had in the Spyderco kitchen line and lobbied for a re-issue of discontinued models. Sal Glesser listened and they're all now available. They're my favorite
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something along the lines of the Spyderco kitchen set is exactly what I want. I just wish they could be had with a block.

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-Dennis


 
Dennis,

I'm not sure if Sal markets a block. Try contacting Charlie at the Spydie Outlet Store in Colorado.

If not, James Mattis advised me that the block (non wood) sold by A.G. Russell is great and will handle the Spydie Santou (SIC?) which my Henckles block won't <sigh>.

-=[Bob]=-
 
While not in the price range that Shootist mentioned I would like to bring up Murray Carter. Murray is a Canadian living in Japan, making traditional Japanese tool knives (i.e. not swords). I bought one of his vegetable slicers at the Blade Show with a Japanese "blue steel" core surrounded by stainless steel (an American company threatened to sue him if he used the term San Mai, even though that would be like someone suing someone for using the term stainless steel or flat ground blah blah blah). I paid $80 for this knife and now I wish I had bought a couple of other models. Everytime I use this knife I get a big grin on my face. It is by and far the sharpest knife I have ever handled and holds an edge for a long, long time. I would rather have three of his knives than a whole block full of anyone elses (even Spyderco, though I do have some of their kitchen knives, and they are quite excellent). So far my only problem with this knife is getting my fiancee to wash, dry, and then lightly oil the blade before putting it away. On the positive side, after using this knife she now understands my compulsion for better blades. I hope he is at next years Blade Show because I intend to finish up a set, even if I have to take out a loan. He does have some similar knives at lower price points. The traditional Japanese style is not for everyone, but they are very high quality, without a doubt.

Paul Davidson
 
amacks, I bought some of the AG Russell kitchen knives that you mentioned. I returned one that was too small for my use (the 2.5" one), but I am very satisfied with the ones I kept.

I also don't know the steel used, but as far as edge holding they're very good. I steel them frequently, and have only used the ceramic sticks a few times. Good so far since I'm an amatuer sharpener
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Another good choice is Messermeister, and I have read in consumer reports that Mundial is a good brand that is very inexpensive.
 
I also have a couple of Murray Carters fantastic knives, also love Global and use Sabatiers from time to time. Less expensive are Forschners used by meatcutters. I would spend the extra bucks (fine knives will last your lifetime and some) and splurge on Global or for tough use the Sabatiers are great and quite reasonable.
Dave Ellis, ABS, Mastersmith http://www.mastersmith.com

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Paul and Ellis --
Do you have contact info for Murray Carter? (Are his knives distributed anywhere in the US?) Also, I have not heard of Global -- do they specialize in kitchen cutlery? And where can one get info on Global?

Thanks --
Glen

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Ginsu's!!

About $190.00 under budget too!

;o)

[This message has been edited by knzn (edited 15 October 1999).]
 
Gerber's Balance Plus kitchen knives are great, they have several different sets with block within your price range. I baught my son a set when he went to chef's school about 12 years ago, and he still uses them regularly. The" Cutlery Shoppe " located in Meridian, Idaho carries them mail order, and they will send you a catalog on request. 1-800-231-1272
 
storyville,
I can't find Murray Carter's brochure at the moment, but I did find the June 1999 Blade that had a review of one of his sheath knives. Here's the info, though I am not really sure what format the Japanese put their addresses in. When I send mail to my buddy in Osaka I end up writing it differently every time. I guess they are used to gaijin doing it the wrong way.

Murray Carter
2506 Toyo Oka
Dept. BL6
Ueki Kamoto
Kumamoto, JAPAN 861-0163

phone/fax (8196)272-6759

When I asked him about shipping his stuff from Japan, he told me it was not as expensive as one might think. He said it was cheaper for him to ship to America than within Japan.

BTW I also bought the smaller version of the knife that Kim Breed reviewed in Blade. It is part of his "Muteki" (if I spelled it right) line, which is the stuff he makes from commercially available san-mai bar stock. It has a core of "white steel" surrounded by stainless. The kitchen knife I have is forged by Murray. He explained to me that the "white steel" is supposed to take a keener edge, while the "blue steel" holds an edge better. I can't imagine anything taking a keener edge than the "blue steel" in my Nakiri.

The kitchen knife that I have has a stick tang which is pushed into a handle of Ho wood (similar to Magnolia I believe, from reading The Japan Woodworker) and fit with a collar. I used a strong magnet to see how far the tang extends. It runs about 3/4 the length of the handle. So far it shows no sign of loosening, and he said if it ever did to send it to him for free repair. He did make some models with riveted wood laminate handles.
 
Great! Thanks for the info, Paul --
Glen

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