Kitchen ware

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lrv

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Here are 2 links to pdf's of to the line Betty Crocker kitchenware and another of flyers of other kitchenware by Imperial Schrade.
If anyone would like a better pdf drop me an e-mail. They are rather large.

Betty Crocker

Kitchen ware

TTYL
Larry
P.S. These PDF's work best with adobe reader 7.0. If your having trouble with them let me know and I'll put up the older formatted versions.
 
Thanks for the links to the nice pictures IRV....er, I mean Larry. :thumbup:

No, no...I really really mean thanks!

TTYL.

bil
 
While on he subject of my dad's knife with my sister, we got to talking about kitchen knives. I'm in desperate need of some good ones. She said consumer reports recommended the Chicago Cutlery, Metropolitan as the the best.
Any comments? I checked them out on line and they are really inexpensive. Inexpensive and good? Could it be?

Also, I've had a dagger, I guess it's a dagger, for years. I was at a Celtic fest and I found it in a large field where "men in skirts" had been. All this knife talk inspired me to get this small knife out....it has a 3 3/4" blade and a bone-looking handle that is about 2 3/4" . The stainless blade says G.B Wilson Pitlochry on it. Anyone?
 
Ted, Kjay,
I remember a Consumer Report artilcle a few years ago which rated Chicago as a best buy and rated them 2nd best overall. When I saw the Old Hickory name I at 1st thought they were the Chicago brand. I thought Chicago had some 1095 or had a pattern that was but could not find it. All seem to be stainless.
They have a web site www.chicagocutlery.com that will show all their products.
Before buying from the site check amazon for a price compare. I have a set of their wooden handled steak knives and they have lasted about 20 years.
TTYL
Larry
 
I agree that Old Hickory is a great value in kitchen cutlery. :thumbup:

If you are put off by the patina in the kitchen, (no worries, but some folks don't like it), and want stainless blades, I've outfitted at least a dozen kitchens for friends with open stock Forschner/Victorinox (same company) with only good reviews regarding quality/value.

I suggest either of these ONLY because the Imperials are so hard to find. :D

All this FIXED blade talk is sure making me nervous. :eek:

Bill
 
Kjay said:
Also, I've had a dagger, I guess it's a dagger, for years. I was at a Celtic fest and I found it in a large field where "men in skirts" had been. All this knife talk inspired me to get this small knife out....it has a 3 3/4" blade and a bone-looking handle that is about 2 3/4" . The stainless blade says G.B Wilson Pitlochry on it. Anyone?
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Probably a Skean Dubh (black knife) from your description. It's worn in the hose (stockings) of Scots when dressed in highland attire.

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In Mexico I have never seen Betty Crocker or Imperial or Old Hickory kitchen knives. I have seen Chicago Cutlery but only Chinese.

I have these in my kitchen:

Top is a Wusthoff cleaver, on the right two Henckels 4 star, on the left three carbon steel Japanese knives (1 yanagiba 2 deba), in the center two forged Arcos chef knives from Albacete, Spain (These ones are very good).

Some kitchen knives

Luis
 
Larry,
Thanks for the PDF files!
Schrade sure made a lot of kitchen cutlery.

As to the question of Old Hickory knives - they are good carbon steel and will take an edge easily.We have several that we use.
I also have a new butcher knife with a 6" blade marked "Tru-Edge,Ontario Knife Co.,made in the USA" and a price sticker marked $2.69.Also in my stash is a long slicer/filet knife with a 7 3/4" blade - same markings and a $3.49 price sticker.The Ontario Knife Co. logo is within a silhouette of a Saracen sword.


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The Old Hickory's sometimes need a good bit of work as they come from the factory.
We also have several old Case and KaBars that my parents used on butchering days on the farm. Every fall,they would kill and process 6-8 hogs,smoke or pickle the hams,shoulders,and bacon,make lard,sausage,etc.
I was just a kid but I always looked forward to it as it meant good eats for the winter.
After they butchered ours,they would go help my Grandfather butcher his and then on to my uncles and neighbors. People helped each in those days.
Usually in late winter,each family would butcher a steer,also.
I wonder what my neighbor would say if I knocked on his door and asked him if he wanted to help me butcher some hogs next week?
Merry Christmas !
Ron
 
Come on down to Tennessee Ron! We'll be doing up a couple dozen chickens, a half dozen big hogs, and maybe a deer or two. Scoop may even drop off a few ducks too! Our calves are too small this time of year.

Codger
 
Codger_64 said:
Come on down to Tennessee Ron! We'll be doing up a couple dozen chickens, a half dozen big hogs, and maybe a deer or two. Scoop may even drop off a few ducks too! Our calves are too small this time of year.

Codger
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That sounds great?:)
Do you have a lard press or should I bring my old Enterprise? Assume you have a grinder and tables,as many deer as you process.Still got my Dad's hog scrapers and his big needle for injecting that sugar-cure.
Ducks,I dont have much experience with.We're too far off the flyway.
Sure has been good butchering weather all month up here.Wouldn't sweat much scalding those pigs.
Typical corn-husking weather as I recall ! Used to hate that as I didn't have much good cold-weather gear - just hand-me-downs and 4-buckle "arctics" over my clodhoppers. Still have my "husking pegs".
Times sure have changed,even "middle-income " families used hand-me-downs during the late 30's and 40's.Try that on kids today.
We used to take a shotgun husking as sometimes you'd find a pheasant or rabbit holed up in a shock.
Ah,the memories! They can choke you up sometimes!
Ron
 
A little ways back Schrade decided to get into housewares as a way of expanding the product offering and income without much investment.

We worked a deal with Kitchen Aid to manufacture high-end cutlery block knife sets for them. We set up a dedicated production area right behind our main Tough Tool assembly area, and had some of our best craftsman (and woman) working in there. The Kitchen Aid knives were top of the line, almost all hand crafted professional grade knives. True works of art if you ask me. In the employee store we always had seconds for sale for about $10 a knife (If I remember correctly, a full set of about 6 or 7 knives would retail for about $400). Because of the high standards these knives had, it was pretty impossible to see what made each second a second with the naked eye.

The Betty Crocker line shown in the links above was almost entirely imported from China / Taiwan, and was in my opinion mostly junk. When we imported these products, we would not purchase them directly. There was a daughter (or niece) of the owners who owned a firm called Orange Imports. What Schrade would do is have Orange Imports actually purchase the imports through a line of credit with her bank. Schrade would recieve the merchandise, then pay Orange Imports at a later date. Under our old inventory / financial computer system used at the time what this allowed Schrade to do was recieve the inventory without having to show a liability on the books for the product. Well, Schrade went and bought a fancy new computer system and this fancy new system forced the liability to be shown as soon as the inventory was recieved, which caused all kinds of problems with the financials! Anyways, to make an already long story short, when Schrade went under we still owed about $1,000,000 (give or take) to Orange Imports, so somewhere out there is about $1,000,000 worth of Betty Crocker crappy homeware products (among other stuff!) that in effect has been paid for by the Baer family.
 
FormerSchradeGuy said:
There was a daughter (or niece) of the owners who owned a firm called Orange Imports. What Schrade would do is have Orange Imports actually purchase the imports through a line of credit with her bank. Schrade would recieve the merchandise, then pay Orange Imports at a later date. Under our old inventory / financial computer system used at the time what this allowed Schrade to do was recieve the inventory without having to show a liability on the books for the product. Well, Schrade went and bought a fancy new computer system and this fancy new system forced the liability to be shown as soon as the inventory was recieved, which caused all kinds of problems with the financials! Anyways, to make an already long story short, when Schrade went under we still owed about $1,000,000 (give or take) to Orange Imports, so somewhere out there is about $1,000,000 worth of Betty Crocker crappy homeware products (among other stuff!) that in effect has been paid for by the Baer family.[/QUOTE]

Very interesting info!
Don't be too sure that the bank,that issued the credit line,wasn't the one that got the stuck.The daughter/niece may have only paid the interest on the credit line.
It's a fairly common practice for debt-ridden privately-held companies to set up "shell companies" and use their lines of credit to buy raw materials,equipment,etc.Sometimes it's done to enable the owners to "milk" the parent company by paying themselves astronomically high salaries.
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I wonder where a lot of that stuff is? I sure hope it isn't in the dump where a lot of it was going. However I don't think so. By the way the higher end cutlery was absolutely amazing if you did not break or lose it you would not wear it out in two lifetimes just wonderful stuff. The lower end stuff is sadly commy which is why it still sits where it has. At least that is my er guess. LT
 
I saw some of the Betty Crocker stuff on Ebay this week. Maybe someone found some of it? I also wonder if that is where the China made Schrade Double Eagle knives came from that show up every once in a while?
 
LT,FormerSchradeGuy;
Might either of you have a pict of the Schrade Kitchen Aid knives you could post. There are 3 sets on ebay today, maroon, red and a black set.
Thanks
Larry
 
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