Knife abuse / knife misuse

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Hi folks,

what would you consider to "knife abuse" and what would be "knife misuse"?

Personal and what do you mean is meant in general?

I wondered about a warranty exclusion of MoD, considering "throwing a knife open".

Blop
 
If you are referring to their folders, they are designed to be used tactically and carried with defense in mind.

As such they may not have that perameter [throwing opened ]built into them.

If you want to throw a knife, get some throwing knives. They won't do you any good in a fight but you can throw them, thats what they were designed for.

The MOD was designed to be handheld in use of ones personal defense. Right tool for the right job here is in order.

I wasn't aware of MODS warrantee exclusion but it makes sense as they don't design it to be used that way. Had never thought about throwing one of my MODS [several models] but then you did and hence some atty: did their job in writing it.

Throwing a MOD opened would be misuse and abuse of that tool in my opinion. I would not expect it to last long, nor any tactical folder for that matter, being thrown open at hard targets.

Brownie
 
hi there
the MoD warranty excludes FLICKING the knife open using your wrist, not throwing (even though i think they don't be able to tell unless you hit metal or something :) )
 
The following conditions and exclusions do apply: Disassembly of any Masters of Defense knife by an unauthorized person, will void the warranty as will knife abuse such as using it for prying, throwing, or as a screwdriver, etc. Also excluded is damage resulting from "throwing" the knife open with a wrist-snap technique. Normal wear is to be expected and is not covered under this warranty.

The above information is taken from the MoD web site. It seems that throwing the knife will void the warranty, as will flicking the blade open ("throwing" the knife open with a wrist-snap technique).
 
Many factory companies will specify what they mean. Not many custom makers do, and simply refer to using the knife as a prybar screwdriver or throwing knife etc. as misuse.

Most one-handed opening folders do actually need just a TINY bit of a wrist action to help open the knife and lock it in place securely after the closing detent has been defeated by your thumb action on the thumbstud. This way you don't need to push your thumb along the entire arc of the blade's opening motion.

But the violent flicking action required to defeat the detent without using the thumbstud is so extreme that the force it generates is excessive and will result in most knives coming loose a lot quicker. This is both at the pivot with wear and tear and at the tang stop pin as it gets smacked repeatedly. Don't be surprised if the lockup goes funny after a while if you do that ridiculous (all-for-show) wrist flicking action to open a knife, when it is far, far more reliable to open the knife with the stud provided.

Other issues of abuse may include using the knife for what it is NOT designed to do. As an extreme example - using a fillet knife to chop and split wood. More often it is about people using the tip to open jars and breaking off the tip (and then complaining that its not a good knife).

Abuse could involve neglect as well - such as - getting upset because your lovely custom carbon steel Bowie rusted after being left in a puddle of mud for 3 months.

A knife is a hardworking personal tool. It should be afforded the same care that you give to any other tool. IE.- you need to find out how to look after it. Use, misuse and abuse, can be easily contained as "How would you maintain your car ?"

Cheers. Jason.
 
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