Knife advice for a demanding work environment

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This is my first post and I am only recently getting into collecting knives. I live in Alaska in a remote cabin much of the time and I use several different knives up there (Bucks, Kershaws, etc). My favorite EDC for the lower 48 is a Benchmade 940 Osborne, I have several other knives but this is the only one that seems to ever end up in my pocket; to me it is the perfect EDC knife in the city and at home in the kitchen. I bought the 940 after I lost a Buck 110 that had been my exclusive EDC for a couple of years, and since getting my hand on a benchmade I can't seem to stop buying more knives (before it never occurred to me to have more than 2, work/home). I have recently purchased some Mcustas, Lionsteels, and Bokers as I've begun collecting. Several of these are in the mail still so I can't compare them yet to what I am looking for here.

And now that I'm getting into knives I want to find the perfect one for my work environment and would like to ask some advice from the forum. I am in the Merchant Marine and work on large vessels that cross the inside passage and the Gulf of Alaska year round. I'm an Able-Bodied Seaman (i.e. sailor) and have all sorts of blue collar/nautical tasks to perform every day that need a knife. My daily kit includes one knife, one multitool, one flashlight, and I have to get by with those tools for everything I do. Often it is in a chaotic/hazardous environment (rain, ice, snow, saltwater, rough seas etc); I have to cut everything there is to cut and am often using my knife for purposes for which it is the wrong tool, simply because it's what I have, and end up using it to pry/unscrew/what-have you. I have to cut line constantly. (Theoretically my ability to cut through very thick line very quickly could save a life at some point...but thankfully nothing like this has ever happened.) I am often wearing gloves in the winter. I am often zipping around in little zodiacs and/or dangling over the water, and it is easy to lose small items overboard, so no custom/thousand dollar knives. (I am willing to use a relatively expensive knife, though; if it does its job and I like it it will be worth the investment...I figure I will I lose knives only once every 1-1.5 years or so.) I also eat apples and oranges every day and this knife will have to perform that function also! This knife will be a part of my arm for several months at a time, so I would definitely like something that I like, enjoy, and can have fun just playing with when things are slow and there's nothing to do at sea.

I've been using cheap, small folders (crkt), a myerchin (which broke after six months), or even just the blades in my leatherman multitools, but now that I'm getting into knives I am realizing that I have been using tools that aren't suited for the job, and I would like to remedy that. I'd like to find a knife I really like, that can perform all the tasks I need it to, and hold up under heavy use. From what I've seen so far I think that a general, low cost knife that might do well for me is a griptillian. I considered the Kershaw blur for a bit, but I don't think assisted knives are a safe option in 30 foot waves, frankly. The griptillian is the mid-range knife that seems like it would meet a lot of my criteria, but I suspect that there is a knife that is heavier duty and sturdier that will perform better for me.

So does anyone have any ideas or recommendations? To sum up: I need a knife that is both heavy duty and easy to carry in a pocket, that can perform any task on a boat, cut a lot of line, be mis-purposed, misused, and abused, slice apples well, impress my co-workers, make me happy, and not give me a heart attack if I ever watch it fall into the drink. What would you guys recommend?

(Oh yeah, no fixed blades. There is a coast guard regulation that has been on the books for decades that sailors aren't allowed to use fixed blades because it would encourage them to stab each other. Frankly it's probably still a good rule.)

Thanks!
 
The first knife that comes to my mind is a full Spyder-Edge Pacific Salt. It is their corrosion resistant H1 blade steel that in the full serrated version makes it super tough. I've heard it referred to as serrated D2 that won't rust It is lightweight and thin so won't take up much room and has a BIG thumbhole opener.. bigger than most other Spyderco's.
Comes in Black or Yellow (yellow may be best if need to find it fast). Those serrations will rip though rope and slice surprisingly well for daily tasks.

http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=128
 
ZT 0550

Frame lock. 3.5 inch blade, available in black finish if needed. I think you can get a lightly used one anywhere from $100-150, closer to $125. Manual knife. Might take a little getting used to if you're trying to flick it open fast as some have a strong detent. If you snap the blade, you can get it re-bladed for a small fee from the manufacturer. It was one of my first beefy knives til I replaced it.

Tough and beefy, generation 2s have a clip that carries well, great steel that can cut line, can be "hard-used", great warranty to back it up if needed, will slice apples (but don't expect nice thin slices due to the thick grind), should impress most people and hope it makes you happy.
 
I'll echo the recommendation for a Pacific Salt, it's made for the kind of job you describe. And it is still a great EDC knife for general use, I carry mine quite often.
 
If corrosion is an issue like Hawk45 said...

Spyderco knives with H-1 steel are extremely corrosion resistant (there's no such thing as a corrosion-proof).

Here's a list of them: http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/list.php?blade=H-1

I think they're all either full serration or no serration...
 
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Take a look at this Spyderco catalog link of their "SALT" series folders using H-1 steel which will NOT rust. Many of these designs have originated by seafarers or the fishing industry. They are not expensive either. Good luck to you.
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/list.php?blade=H-1

edit: looks like RamZar beat me to it. He's a good guy.
:)
 
If your a fan of the benchmade griptillian series, i suggest customizing a griptillian on benchmade's website. Benchmade's N680 steel is their equivalent to spyderco's H1. For $150 bucks, you can have the blade shape, blade steel, engraving, scale color, and furniture color of your pleasing!
 
Both the Pacific Salt (and how could I turn down that name?) and the ZT 0550 are interesting, thanks for the recommendations. And they are both aesthetically pleasing, too. I don't own any Zero Tolerance or Spyderco knives yet, and don't know much about them or how they would feel/handle, but it would be great to try some new brands out.

I have one question/reservation about the pacific salt, however: is it capable of being heavily misused/mistreated? Can I cut rubber, use the handle to break ice, and pry open a steel hatch with it? I ask because I have never held a single Spyderco and the blade looks thin.

And to RamZar, thanks for the info on corrosion resistance, it will definitely be helpful at my job. (Now if you could find some knives with sinking-resistance I will have all my bases covered!)

Another knife I am considering and forgot to mention was the 950 Rift...it seems tough/heavy enough for what I want and the combo edge version should be able to cut line pretty well from the looks of the photos.

Any other ideas?

And thanks for the help, it's good to get advice from people who know what they're talking about!
 
I'll echo the recommendation for a Pacific Salt, it's made for the kind of job you describe. And it is still a great EDC knife for general use, I carry mine quite often.


i have used my large PE salt h1 for maybe 3 years now. it is always on me. like always. I carry my edc for the day and this salt goes in the waist band, back pocket etc.

i have done some serious misuse to it and it still works great. the blade coating doesnt bind properly to the h1 so the coating wore off but it didnt wear poorly or fast. it wore even and the amount of use warranted the visible wear

the pacific salt has always been my pass around knife if someone needed to borrow my knife that were handed the salt. and it still functions like new, stays sharp like maybe 440c in my uses. and resharpens very quickly. also the plastic handles have stood the test of time
 
Both the Pacific Salt (and how could I turn down that name?) and the ZT 0550 are interesting, thanks for the recommendations. And they are both aesthetically pleasing, too. I don't own any Zero Tolerance or Spyderco knives yet, and don't know much about them or how they would feel/handle, but it would be great to try some new brands out.

I have one question/reservation about the pacific salt, however: is it capable of being heavily misused/mistreated? Can I cut rubberyes, use the handle to break iceno, and pry open a steel hatch with itno? I ask because I have never held a single Spyderco and the blade looks thin.

And to RamZar, thanks for the info on corrosion resistance, it will definitely be helpful at my job. (Now if you could find some knives with sinking-resistance I will have all my bases covered!)

Another knife I am considering and forgot to mention was the 950 Rift...it seems tough/heavy enough for what I want and the combo edge version should be able to cut line pretty well from the looks of the photos.

Any other ideas?

And thanks for the help, it's good to get advice from people who know what they're talking about!


the spyderco h1 salt has a plastic handle so you will have no hardcore misusing the handle....

now if you mention strange tasks.....i will also recommend a Cold Steel AK47. this is my work shop beater. and it has a hell of a pommel you could use to pry hatches or smash up ice with no worries

CS-58TLAK-Cold-Steel-AK47.jpg
not my picture
 
If your a fan of the benchmade griptillian series, i suggest customizing a griptillian on benchmade's website. Benchmade's N680 steel is their equivalent to spyderco's H1. For $150 bucks, you can have the blade shape, blade steel, engraving, scale color, and furniture color of your pleasing!

Here's a list of all Benchmade knives that use the corrosion resistant N680 steel. Of note are their H2O knives.

http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_list.aspx?material=N680
 
I like the Pacific Salt. I'd recommend it.

Also, get a Benchmade balisong to occupy your down time. :D Some say the balisong was originally a sailor's knife.
 
If you're going to use the knife "to break ice and pry open a steel hatch" and even though most of the Spyderco H-1 knives have 0.125" thick blades not all are so thick at the tip and most have just FRN handles.

ZT 0550 is a great robust knife and you can do both those things. Also, Spyderco Tuff. Both have titanium handles and frame lock and G10 on reverse side.

I would also recommend Boker Minos made in Germany. It does all that you need but perhaps the blade is a little too short at 3 inches. It'll do all that you asked though and is full titanium handles and frame lock. It's an extremely well-made knife. Here's a review: The Edge Observer: The Böker Minos designed by Jens Ansø.
 
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You need a Spyderco Pacific Salt hands down. I also work around a wet environment from time to time, as tough as other knives are you don't want to have to always feel the need to take apart a framelock/linerlock to clean it (or have gunk sitting in the pivot all work day). The Pacific Salt lockback is strong as hell, and has minimal construction. I just hose it down under hot water while I'm working, only to not get more weird stuff on my pants. The h-1 steel will never rust and takes a SCREAMING edge soooo easily. It's a working man's knife and if you use it ALOT you will have to sharpen it maybe once a week. If you like serrations go for those, personally I'm finding the plain edge better suited for what I need it for.

Seriously get this knife, I have plenty of ZTs and Kershaws but this knife being my first Spyderco I have a whole new respect for these knives. It's hard to put down. The yellow is kinda cool too :) There is also a version in black aswell.
 
Thank you for all of the excellent advice and information. All of these knives look like good options. I'm considering a Spyderco Pacific Salt or a Griptillian H20 for my line cutting and possibly carrying a second, heavier knife on my belt for the more abusive tasks. As much gear/equipment as I wear at work there is no reason to not carry two knives, I figure :)

I'm really interested in that Minos RamZar, although you are right the 3" blade might be a little short for work purposes (and the price might be a little too steep for knife that will likely drown), but I'm fairly certain I will own one soon anyway. I already have the Boker Albatross and it is a sturdy and functional little knife (although, especially because I'm a sailor, I have to ask: how do you not make a knife named "Albatross' a neck knife?!?!) But the Minos looks like a great knife, and the name + labyrinth pattern is a great idea. In general Boker seems to be very good at naming their knives!

That AK-47 pommel does look like it could be extremely useful for me, too, I'm definitely going to look into that one also.

The best part about this particular search is that I can easily justify buying several different knives and 'trying them out'; because, you know, it's for work :)

But at this point I'm really liking the idea of a Pacific Salt in my Pocket and a 0550, Minos, or AK-47 on my belt.

Thanks for the advice, it was exactly what I was looking for. I'll be sure to send some photos of these knives at Sea when I ship back out in a couple of months!
 
Hey man if you like fixed blades, the Spyderco Enuff Knife H1 seems like a tough sailor man's knife. Basically I've become the biggest fan of H1 steel, just blown away by it. gl with you purchase!
 
Throw caution to the wind and try a Benchmade 810. The M4 isn't the most corrosion-resistant steel, but it's not like it'll fall to pieces at the sight of water.

BUT, the knife is big, tough, and the steel bites like you wouldn't believe. Carbide glass breaker on the handle to boot. It's pretty much just a huge grippy version of your coveted 940, but with better steel.
 
Throw caution to the wind and try a Benchmade 810. The M4 isn't the most corrosion-resistant steel, but it's not like it'll fall to pieces at the sight of water.

BUT, the knife is big, tough, and the steel bites like you wouldn't believe. Carbide glass breaker on the handle to boot. It's pretty much just a huge grippy version of your coveted 940, but with better steel.

I would've definitely recommended both Benchmade 810 Contego and Spyderco Gayle Bradley because they're great robust knives and can cut all week with their CPM-M4. Then again, exactly because CPM-M4 is more prone to rust especially out in the ocean is the reason I decided not to.
 
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I would've definitely recommended both Benchmade 810 Contego and Spyderco Gayle Bradley because they're great robust knves and can cut all week with their CPM-M4. Then again, exactly because CPM-M4 is more prone to rust especially out in the ocean is the reason I decided not to.

The 810 is Ceracoted, so I figure it may prevent most corrosion. A lot of the pleasure I derive form my knives comes from maintaining them. I wouldn't bat an eye bringing my 810 on the ocean as long as I packed my Prolink lube, sharpening kit, and a strop. The benefits of the steel far outweigh the minimal nightly maintenance required.

But that's just like, my opinion man :)
 
I think the Pacific Salt and 0550 would be a perfect pair. The 0550 is a solid knife, and can handle just about anything you could throw at a folding knife. Besides maybe throwing it. Like Hawk45 said you should get the serrated version of the Pacific.

Welcome to the forum! Hope you stick around Henry!
 
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