I rarely post here although I read what's going on almost daily, but I just had to relate an observation. The topic of carrying knives in the work place and the reaction this receives, official or otherwise comes up from time to time. I work in a central office building for the State government; in fact all the legislators have their offices in this bldg(and just down the hall). One of the building maintenance staff was in here this Am and I noticed a nice fixed blade utility knive in a nice pouch type sheath on this guys belt. I said to my self, "oh, gee, looks like a pretty nice knife." and went about my business. It was not until later I reflected on this and realized how remarkable this is in comparison to the insanity of some jurisdictions and companies.
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Fox Creek,
Do you work in the Annex building behind the State Capitol? Kentucky is very laid back about knives in general, but I'm still a little surprised that they would let somebody in one of the state buildings with a sheath knife. As long as it's not concealed it's legal, but I just figured that they would be more paranoid than that.
People in Kentucky seem to accept the fact that most men carry at least a pocket knife. When I was a kid I used to run around town with a sheath knife on my belt all the time (not to school, just a SAK or Buck, or Gerber LST at school). I never got a second glance, even with my Gerber Mark I on. Frankfort has changed a bit since then though, like everywhere else. You can't even smell the distilleries on foggy mornings in Frankfort like you used to.
I'm glad to know my home state has gone completely hoplophobic though.
Paul
Do you work in the Annex building behind the State Capitol? Kentucky is very laid back about knives in general, but I'm still a little surprised that they would let somebody in one of the state buildings with a sheath knife. As long as it's not concealed it's legal, but I just figured that they would be more paranoid than that.
People in Kentucky seem to accept the fact that most men carry at least a pocket knife. When I was a kid I used to run around town with a sheath knife on my belt all the time (not to school, just a SAK or Buck, or Gerber LST at school). I never got a second glance, even with my Gerber Mark I on. Frankfort has changed a bit since then though, like everywhere else. You can't even smell the distilleries on foggy mornings in Frankfort like you used to.
I'm glad to know my home state has gone completely hoplophobic though.
Paul
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Sometimes the rules they make about inanimate things just do not make sense.
These big ole scissors sitting on my desk at work would create a more devastating stab wound than most of the knives that I would like to carry.
Not to mention the big removeable swinging arm of the paper cutter. (Now that is a slasher if I ever saw one - nice ergonomic handle too)
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" The real art of living is to keep alive the longing in human beings to become greater versions of themselves." Laurens Van der Post in memory of James Mattis
These big ole scissors sitting on my desk at work would create a more devastating stab wound than most of the knives that I would like to carry.
Not to mention the big removeable swinging arm of the paper cutter. (Now that is a slasher if I ever saw one - nice ergonomic handle too)
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" The real art of living is to keep alive the longing in human beings to become greater versions of themselves." Laurens Van der Post in memory of James Mattis
I work in a Federal building in D.C. where we have to go through security and the metal detector whenever we enter the building. Most of the guards are nice and fairly reasonable but there are exceptions. The detectors also vary in sensitivity from day to day and door to to door. I use a carbon fiber Dragonfly for a money clip and it will usually not set off the detector but on occasion it does. I can usually just put it clip isde up on the table with bills showing no problem. One day I no cash and when I keep beeping I pulled it out and the guard went nuts! You'd have thought it was an Uzi. He made me check it for the day. I've also had to check a SAK classic if you can believe it. Well last Friday i really messed up. I was running a little late in the morning and grabbed a jean jacket. Went through and beeped and the guard said it is probably the buttons and grabs the wand. Sure enough the buttons beeped but then he ran it over my pocket and got another beep. I stuck my hand in and went oh s**t! I had forgotten that I had my Wayne Goddard lightweight, a good sized knife. I apologized, said I had forgotten about it. The guy was pretty cool and said I'd have to check it. They had a guy take me down to the security office. The OIC, a captain told me to write down my name, office number and phone number and I could pick it up when I was leaving. I went down about 5:30 and the office was unlocked but no one was around. I asked the guy at the nearest entrance and he said everyone was gone and I'd have to wait till Monday. Monday morning I walk in and the captain is manning my entrance. I ask him about the knife and he was suprised I hadn't gotten it back. He said they left it with the guard nearest the office where I had checked on Friday. He was pissed but not at me. He called the other station and asked if they had it. I don't know what else he said to the guy but he sent me down. Guess who? The guy that went nuts over my Dragonfly! He hands over the Goddard and I ask if maybe he should keep it for the day. He thinks a minute and says, well maybe its a little big. Got it back that afternoon.
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I guess I'm not surprised Bayou Lafourche is located in a knife-friendly environment!
Well, I have smelled the distillery on a cool wet morning. Its now re-named Buffalo Trace instead of Ancient Age. Frankfort is a neat but odd town. One morning I counted over 100 buzzards circling overhead. They leave their roosting area on the encircling ridges and disperse at dawn. Like some old vincent Price movie...Oddly enough on the knife thing, I get the impression that a folder produced and opened to cut a box is somehow more threatening than a sheath knife carried openly. My yellow Case Chas gotten a raised eyebrow or two when produced to open mail.
Well... I guess that I am very fortunate. I am encouraged to carry a knife, as a matter of fact it is an unstated law that you have to carry a knife were I work(except for the occasional knife fight it's not that bad of a rule. *grin*).
Right now I carry a Rookie II, fully serrated. I use it to open mail, clean my fingernails, that kind of stuff.
There is only one draw back to carrying a knife at work all the time, you forget that you are carrying it and freak out the public. The best example of this is when a group of us went to celebrate our site designer's birthday at a local restarant. About ten of us ended up going and towards the end of the meal the waiter was trying to remove the ballons from the back of the guest of honors chair. All of a sudden he was faced with about six knives of different sizes and brands (from a Leatherman Wave to a Case Pearl Handle Stockman). At the time I was carrying an Hombre from CS (big darn knife, opens letters like a dream). I think the waiter almost wet himself.
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Right now I carry a Rookie II, fully serrated. I use it to open mail, clean my fingernails, that kind of stuff.
There is only one draw back to carrying a knife at work all the time, you forget that you are carrying it and freak out the public. The best example of this is when a group of us went to celebrate our site designer's birthday at a local restarant. About ten of us ended up going and towards the end of the meal the waiter was trying to remove the ballons from the back of the guest of honors chair. All of a sudden he was faced with about six knives of different sizes and brands (from a Leatherman Wave to a Case Pearl Handle Stockman). At the time I was carrying an Hombre from CS (big darn knife, opens letters like a dream). I think the waiter almost wet himself.
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Jason Cadden
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I,m another Ky resident, living in a rural area. I've walked into the County court Clerks office with everything from a 6.5 " hand forged Charles Sauer Bowie, to a Grohmann#3 boat knife, and never drew an off look, even from the Court Baliff. By the same token, i was in teh Fed courthouse in Bowling Green back in Dec, and had my Tiny SAK with nail file and blade confiscated. I was a Paramedic at Ft. Knox Ky for 15 years, we were issued Buck 110, with our belt pouches. It was illegal to carry a knife on post with greater than a 3" blade, and about once every 6 months , we would have to prove to some new M.P that they were on hand reciept.
I think the state is victim to selectiveparinoia about knives, what I can get by with in my county (Hart), folks in Fayetteor Jefferson Counties ( hi Will .223) can't
Just my $0.02
Ravenn
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I think the state is victim to selectiveparinoia about knives, what I can get by with in my county (Hart), folks in Fayetteor Jefferson Counties ( hi Will .223) can't
Just my $0.02
Ravenn
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Fox Creek,
You can still smell the distilleries all right, but it was much stronger when I was a kid, because there were more distilleries in the county at that point. I grew up on one of the highest points in the county and you could still smell the mash every morning it was foggy. Now it is only a faint odor. There are many buzzards around, but they mainly leave when the legislative session is over.
Actually, I think the buzzards roost down by the river. I used to fish the KY River a lot when I was younger and there were areas where there would be scores of buzzards all sleeping and hanging out in huge old trees. What's really unnerving is to lay down in a grassy field to take a rest and open your eyes to see 4 or 5 buzzards circling overhead. As soon as I would get up they would disperse. I always figured they were disappointed to see a meal of my size get up and leave.
Ravenn,
You are right about Fayette Co. They wouldn't let me in the courthouse with a Leatherman Micra. They are good about returning them at least. You will occasionally see someone with a small fixed blade on their belt in Fayette County though. When I worked at Fayette Mall in college, I would occasionally see someone with a Schrade Sharpfinger or similar knife on their belt. Sometimes something larger. A couple of times we even had people come in wearing pistols. Nobody seems to care if you have a folding knife on your belt at all though, even in Fayette Co. I often wore a folder in sheath to UK, that or a folder with a pocket clip. I would get the occasional remark, but not by LEOs.
The really nice thing about KY is that the CCW law states that it is for the concealed carry of a "deadly weapon", not just gun. I'm not sure if this has been tested in court yet but I know a lot of people are buying auto knives and expandable batons.
Jason,
You have the ideal job for anyone that likes knives. I'm jealous.
Paul
You can still smell the distilleries all right, but it was much stronger when I was a kid, because there were more distilleries in the county at that point. I grew up on one of the highest points in the county and you could still smell the mash every morning it was foggy. Now it is only a faint odor. There are many buzzards around, but they mainly leave when the legislative session is over.
Ravenn,
You are right about Fayette Co. They wouldn't let me in the courthouse with a Leatherman Micra. They are good about returning them at least. You will occasionally see someone with a small fixed blade on their belt in Fayette County though. When I worked at Fayette Mall in college, I would occasionally see someone with a Schrade Sharpfinger or similar knife on their belt. Sometimes something larger. A couple of times we even had people come in wearing pistols. Nobody seems to care if you have a folding knife on your belt at all though, even in Fayette Co. I often wore a folder in sheath to UK, that or a folder with a pocket clip. I would get the occasional remark, but not by LEOs.
The really nice thing about KY is that the CCW law states that it is for the concealed carry of a "deadly weapon", not just gun. I'm not sure if this has been tested in court yet but I know a lot of people are buying auto knives and expandable batons.
Jason,
You have the ideal job for anyone that likes knives. I'm jealous.
Paul
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'nother Kentuckian here.
My future mother-in-law works for the VA. Usually I have to turn my knives over and they sit in abox when I visit her at lunch, but once the security lady, who thought I was there to work on the computers (must I really look like a geek or what!!) said, "Don't you need these?"
My cousin is an attorney here in Louisville and I went with him to court (Hall of Justice, downtown Louisville) one morning and put my Wave and small sebenza in my breifcase and it went through the metal detector and was handed right back to me! I was surprised!
Back in Kingsport, TN where I grew up, I remember one teacher asked me if I had a knife for her to use to open a box of wrapping paper we were selling for a trip! Probably not anymore!
Ravenn -- I go to the dentist in Hart county! My fiance's family lives all around that area -- Cub Run, Horse Cave, Hiseville. Her uncle works at Barren River State Park. Beautiful area. I really like it!
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My future mother-in-law works for the VA. Usually I have to turn my knives over and they sit in abox when I visit her at lunch, but once the security lady, who thought I was there to work on the computers (must I really look like a geek or what!!) said, "Don't you need these?"
My cousin is an attorney here in Louisville and I went with him to court (Hall of Justice, downtown Louisville) one morning and put my Wave and small sebenza in my breifcase and it went through the metal detector and was handed right back to me! I was surprised!
Back in Kingsport, TN where I grew up, I remember one teacher asked me if I had a knife for her to use to open a box of wrapping paper we were selling for a trip! Probably not anymore!
Ravenn -- I go to the dentist in Hart county! My fiance's family lives all around that area -- Cub Run, Horse Cave, Hiseville. Her uncle works at Barren River State Park. Beautiful area. I really like it!
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