They are E-sellers on the Bay, and based close to the Buck Factory. They go there often and pick up allot of knives. They are a bit expensive. Because they are close to the Factory, they seem to get info on vintage knives and their info isn't always correct, or they take the info and inflate the price, considerably. Leroy Remer deals with them allot and does a large bit of work for them, cleaning up vintage knives. I have bought several things from them, and the business is always good.