Knife Kit

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Hi there all! My name is Michael and I had learned a bit of blacksmithing from someone in Montanna a while ago. It was so cool! Loved it but have not been living in a place where I can do some blacksmithing so I gues it kinda went on the backburner. Recently though I got a knife kit from TX knifemaking supply. Nice little kit with slabs for handes and pins. Although the dircetions say I need a sander and buffer I know that you can do this all by hand and this is what I have to do as I dont have the big power tools. Reading all that I can now before I start, but was wondering how you guys would start a kit of this form
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Michael
 
Any sane person would wrap up the kit and send it back to the dealer for a refund. If you start on it, you will get bitten by the knife making bug and your life will never be the same.

Most knifemakers no longer have both oars in the water. If you don't believe me, go visit the Whine and Cheese forum.
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You know I actually did think of this.... I mean...I already know I love to do blacksmith work.....cant do that..... seems that this kit would only encourage my creativity in this art and get me thinking of how I might be able to get some smithing work done even though I dont have the space for it ..... do I really need to do this.....hmmm..... Ah what the hell, why not
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Michael
 
Ahhh. Kit knives! I have done several. First step, cover the blade with masking tape. Next step, throw away the directions! Or if you are like me, cut them up first with the new blade! Hopefully you got the kits where you dont have to solder the guard. IF you have to solder, keep the instructions, I dont know how to do them otherwise! Next step....drilling handle material. Clamp both scales onto the knife handle and put some wood under the last one so the drill press or other drill (drill press makes straight holes...good for this stuff) wont go all the way thru it and splinter the handle. Then get the pins out. Make sure they fit thru the holes you jsut drilled! if not either drill bigger holes or sand pins down. Drill bigger holes! IF you are using rivets, good luck! never used them, pins are much easier! Epoxy time! Sand scales until they sit flat on the knife tang and sand the knife tang to get good adhesion of the epoxy. Next step, mix epoxy (2 ton waterproof stuff)and smear it on the tang of the knife and the handle pieces on the side that is being glued to the tang. Put pins thru pin holes and pein a LITTLE bit..not much! Cut off excess with hacksaw. Clamp tight so the pieces wont move, but dont force all of the epoxy out. Go to sleep. let epoxy dry. When it is dry, varies depending on type and brand, get out the old hacksaw or other small saw and try to cut the bulk of the handle material away from the tang. This will rough out the handle a little bit. YOu can also do it before you drill and epoxy and everything, but this way you dont have to wory about taking too much off before it is on the handle. Now, put the knife in a vise and get the files and arms ready!! Get a few big files. Half round, rough cut, etc. Rasps are also good for removing lots of stuff fast, but watch out for splintering handle material. File down the handle till you see the tang on the side of the knife, where it looks like a sandwich, with the handle on either side of the tang. File the handle stuff down till it is flush with the tang. Also, file the pins flush to the handle material. Now the knife should look almost done, but the handle is blocky. You can round the handle edges with a file, but there is an easier way. Put the knife in the vise, blade in and handle sticking out. Get a few cheap shop rolls of abrasive, 1" wide in various grits, like 80, 120, 220 and 300 or so. Shoeshine the handle edges so they round out. This works great on all handles and gives a nice even rounded handle. Got this tip from the Loveless book! then get some sandpaper in 400 and 600 grit. After shoeshining the handle to what you want, use the 400 grit to sand all of the scratches out, then the 600 in the same way. then take a chunk of leather and rub it over the handle really fast. this will buff it a little and make it shine. Now unwrap the blade and put a nice edge on it! and laugh at it for a while cuz unless you got different kits than i did, the edge will die quick! Hehehe. Hope this helps! This is the down and dirty way to make a kit knife, may not be the best way, but it works with limited hand tools!...its how i did my razor edge boot knife from Jantz, which was my first kit! Came out ok, but i have gotten much better since! Any other questions, let me know!!
 
I couldn't agree more with Taz about drilling the holes. If your kit comes with a diamondwood handle and you try forcing or pounding the pins through it WILL CRACK! Guaranteed. Doesn't matter if you use the same size drill bit as the pins, the pins will always be just a teeny bit to big for the handle slabs.

Good Luck!

Hugh

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Scraped, burnt, sliced, smashed. AHHHH, knifemaking!!!!
 
Michael,
In addition to what Taz said I would add this step. If the knife doesn't have bolsters or gaurd, profile and polish the front edge of the slab handles...This will be very hard to do after they're mounted on the blade. Before epoxying I put a little wax onto the front edge to prevent the epoxy from sticking where it doesn't belong!

My first couple of knives that I sold were kit knives, I kept telling the guys that I didn't make the blades but they didn't care. I get less money for more work for the blades I make now, but I'm a lot happier when I don't have anything to tell someone about my knife but the price.

Hope this helps and welcome!

Will
 
just work slow and smile as you sink into the loving activity of Knifemaking.Make a mistake? yes we all do and will to the end of our knifemaking. Just know you will make over a hundred complete knives before you are satisfied and everything until and after is learning. Just keep going until you finish it. Don't hesitate hoping the skill will come from osmosis it comes with mistakes and so do not expect the world of your first knife. Making it with simpler inexpesive tools is not a handicap at all. You can do a good job, better then our pioneer ancestors crossed the country cutting with! Good luck keep it simple and if you can't, keep it fun.
 
Wow!!! Thanks all for the responces
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Sounds pretty easy the way you all discribe it
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The directions did appear a bit more complicated then it appeared. I do not have a guard on this one by the way, so it's pretty staight forward. I'll keep you posted!


Michael
 
Michael,

It may sound easy, but it's not. Every time I learn something new, I realize that there is that much more to be learned. It can be frustrating at times, but I need the challenge to keep my interest peaked. There is nothing more satisfying than learning something new or sharing what you have learned with someone else. Just ask a veteran of this trade what they have learned recently, and I am certain they will have something to share.
 
Yes I understand. I just love to learn about things. Especially making things. I am a student at RIT in NY(anybody know if they still do the knifemaking class here...) and need to keep busy with things to keep me sain
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Michael
 
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