Knife laws in England

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Bob Litt

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Hello all,
I'm heading for London next week, and I would like to know if there are any laws that prohibit the carrying of pocket folder clipped to ones pocket - Specifically, I plan on bringing an ATCF?

Thanks for any suggestions
 
The Brits have just about the crappiest knife laws in the world. They should really be ashamed and embarrased about it. They put people in jail with no questions asked over carrying cardboard box cutters to work. I guess an completely unarmed public is easier to keep in line, and makes for a less violent society. That's crap. They maul each other over soccer games.

Anyway, you might consider a small folder like the Benchmade 705S Mini-Axis or something the same size, and keeping it 100% out of sight. You wouldn't want a stick-weilding stormtrooper to get jiggy with his skills. Sorry about the cynism regarding England, but their laws really do anger me.

Professor.
 
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[This message has been edited by Professor (edited 07-20-2000).]
 
Knife law is as follows;
England and Wales are covered by Prevention of crime act 1953 and the Criminal Law Act. I could go into the ins and outs of a badgers arsehole but suffice it to say you cannot carry any lock knife or any fixed blade or any non locking folder with a blade longer than 3 and half inches. My practical advice is to carry a swiss army knife. Knife law in Scotland has different laws but same content. I could go into this more but i don't think you need to know much more than it is a big no no
 
It's too bad the English forgot thier former greatness. They repealed their version of our fifth amendment right to be silent under questioning without prejudice. Also if they could remember what got them where they are, they wouldn't have to keep borrowing weapons from their wiser neighbors to fight with every time a war happens

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The thorn stands to defend the Rose, yet it is peaceful and does not seek conflict
 
Wow...that's some serious restrictions! I guess my Swiss army will be adequate.

Thanks for everyone's input. I truly appreciated.
 
Best advice (as it was published on TK) - if you can - don't go there at all...

Anyway - the food in France is much better - also the weather...
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Thanks for the travel advice Blilious but I want to read about knives here , not your views on my country.It may be a crappy place but it's my crappy place.
Cheers , Paul.
 
Don't worry Paul, every country has it's share of damn fools (cross section of humanity and all that stuff) some of which eventually get into positions of authority.
Incredably stupid laws are a result. I only know about a few of the realy stupid laws here in the U.S., The ban on HCFC refrigerants rank near the top. How could something heavier than air (warning printed in bold letters on the side of R-12 container) released north of the equator get 19 miles up and all the way to the south pole? Testamony by 80+ year old farmers in New Zeland indicate that the ozone hole was there long before we started using HCFC's.
Ozone layer in a one mile slice around the equator is 450,000+ cubic miles. Some of you with better math skills than I can figure out how many cubic miles of ozone layer there is over the entire earth,a lot more than we humans can mess up no mater how hard we try. As my 7 year old grandson would say when he encounters something illogical " Papaw, that's dumb"

Take heart, we all have to put up with fools, that's part of life.

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old pete
 
Pete Peterson, you are incorrect. The expansion of the ozone hole does indeed seem to be catalyzed by chlorofluorocarbons, which arrive at the polar stratosphere due to the Hadley circulation.
And for the English folks, congrats on David Millar's fine performance in the Tour de France.
 
I’ve got to stand up with Mr. Dulson here, especially in respect of the comments of Mssrs. Wheeler, Fudo, Blilious (or is that bilious) and the Professor. I want to read and share about knives, not hear the ill informed opinions of gentlemen who, if they could spell as well as they opine, should know that:

a) Britain was one of the first nations to stand up to German Fascism (I think you’ll find there’s no "h") while others sat round wringing their hands, and
b) their own countries’ human rights records are far from utopian, and make knife laws pale into insignificance.

Come on boys, lets keep those opinions where they belong, where it’s dark and private
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Carrying anything for self defence is a No No. You can carry any knife you like in the UK, if you have GOOD REASON. However, anything that locks, is counted as a fixed blade. A fixed blade good reason in any public place has to be very good. Police in the UK hate knive, and you can't blame them. They WILL give you the hardest of times if they find you carrying one.
A penknife, SAK are fine in your pocket. Anything fixed, Leatherman, Benchmade, needs to be at the bottom of your daysack/luggage, where it would take a couple of minutes to take it out. Cut your sandwhiches/apple and then put the gentlemanly looking knife away.
The test is: would a magistrate/judge believe your good reason. Self defence = go to jail, fine, go home first flight.
 
Perhaps the Politics forum would be a better place to discuss the dubious notion that "self-defense" is an evil motive, and/or to compare the perverse laws and other national vices of various and sundry countries.

So I'm moving this there.
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