Knife Making Videos

I’ve seen dozens of threads here mentioning knives in movies, but what I’ve never seen is a review of a movie on “How to Make a Knife”. I’ve seen a couple of good ones recently and I thought I’d share them with you. I have no immediate plans to start making knives, but it’s really educational to see the steps of making a knife. It just makes you appreciate more the folks that do make knives, and the knives themselves.

The first video I saw on knife making was about a month ago, I got a copy from Max Burnett of his stepfather Bob Ogg making a slip joint folder.

http://store.yahoo.com/knifeart/oggknives.html

Now this was a homemade production with Max’s Mom doing the camera work, and she did a very nice job. Although it’s not a professional production, I will tell you this if you watch this movie, you will know how to make a knife. There is no doubt that Bob was a character and a true professional. If you go to the Shop Talk Forum here you would think you needed a ton of expensive equipment and it’s all like real precision work, but if Bob says. “That’s close enough.” once, he says it a dozen time. Aside from the years of experience Bob had making knives, he shows and explains just how he did it. He sure removed any fear I might have about trying to make a folder.

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I know I’m not the only one here that thinks Ed Fowler makes the best High-Performance knife there is. If you also believe that form follows function you will probably think there’s no more beautiful knife either.

This video was professional done, but not editided in a way that takes away from the sheer charm of Ed Fowler. You see Ed on his ranch with his dogs, working with his cattle, but more important you can watch him turn a ball of 52100 steel into one of his knives, skipping none of the steps. It’s amazing to see, but what’s more amazing is the obvious joy that Ed has in making them. Unlike Bob’s video, I would not even attempt to match the amount of work that goes into one of Ed’s knives. Not that he makes it complicated, on the contrary he goes into and shows you why he goes through all of his techniques in search for the perfect knife.

This video should come with a Warning, because you will come away with the feeling that Ed just doesn’t charge enough for his knives.

You can get a copy of the “Bob Ogg Video” from Max Burnett of Ogg Custom Knives,
If you wait until he gets back from ABS school
His E-mail is,

mburnett@cswnet.com

Ed Fowler’s video “Design, Construction and Function of a Using Knife” is available directly from Ed at Ed Fowler, Dept. BL4, P.O. Box 1519, Riverton, WY 82501.
The price is $45, plus $3.50 shipping.

I don’t care if you’re a knife maker or not, if you love knives these videos should be on your “Must See List”. I’m a child of the 50’s now in his 50’s, so I grew up on TV and I learn quickest when I can see and not just read about how to do something.

Okay now your turn now;
Who has seen either one of these videos?
What did you think and what did you learn?
What other videos have you seen on Making a Knife?


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Nice thread Phil!

I have Allen Blade's Flat Grinding video and his Kydex Sheath making video. the quality of the videos are fine for learning what is on the tapes. On the flat grinding video, Allen starts with a blank and goes from grinding in the center lines to a fully flat ground 1/4" bowie ready for ehat treat. Allen purposely makes mistakes to show you how to fix them! That I liked alot. I know that my grinding improved increadibly after seeing that video.

The price of Allen's videos, liek his knives, are low. I paid $13 I think for each video!

What the videos do, though, is leave you hanging! It would be nice to see a heat treat video, a blade finishign video, guard making/soldering video, a handle making.finishign video, and so on. I think the Fowler video goes from start to finish on the one video, no?

I'm curious to hear about the other videos!

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Crayola:

What the videos do, though, is leave you hanging! It would be nice to see a heat treat video, a blade finishign video, guard making/soldering video, a handle making.finishign video, and so on. I think the Fowler video goes from start to finish on the one video, no?
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Neither Ed's nor Bob's videos leave you hanging, every step from start to finish is in there.
Actually one of Allen's videos would be next on my list, the grinding video sounds good. But I think I'll wait until he gets caught up a bit on his orders.
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For an "on-the-cheap" approach, try http://survival.com/vol9.htm

This shows Tim Lively and Tai Goo making "neo-tribal" knives in backyard forges--it's very instructive & thorough.

A friend also told me Newt Livesay has a video or video set on Kydex work, but I can't find it on his site or in his forum. Hope this helps.
 
Phil:

I should explain a bit about what I mean when I say "Leave you hanging".

My flat grinding video is something liek 40-50 minutes long, of nothing but grinding! To complete a whole knife, at that pace, would take something like 8 videos, off the top of my head. Since Allen covers one subject in much depth, if someone needs to see a video on all of the steps, they would have to get more than just the grinding video.

I like the detail that Allen went into the video. Allen showed some of the mistakes that can be made while grinding, and when I watched the video I thought at times, "Hey! I made that mistake! Cool!"

I wish that Allen will make a complete "set" of videos when he is caught up. If someoen wants to see a knife go from start to finish, go with the Fowler video, I guess.

Hey Phil: Do you want to borrow my video(s)? Lemme know and I'll drop them in the mail.

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I got an interesting E-mail last night, I'm sure he won't mind if I post it here.

"Hi Phill:
I received the Bob Ogg video and watched it several times. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
I was amazed at how wonderfully simple his shop was. Old buffers that harmonized while he worked, a drill press that probably was worn out when he got it, no guards on anything, a cut off wheel that would scare
most of today's knife makers out of the shop. Still when he worked on his equipment he was more safe than most men in modern shops, I watched as he used the natural physical forces generated by the human body to
provide all the safety he needed. In short it was a lesson in harmony between man and machine that resulted in our most creative environment, freedom.

He knew what he wanted to do, knew well his equipment and got more out of it than any other man could. He was obviously at home in his shop, he and his equipment were family. So many knife makers today think that they need an elaborate shop, we don't, a man with a file and a dream can make it happen. Throw a small fortune in equipment his way and the
equipment will limit him and his dream will look like every other knife on the shelf. Bob's choice of equipment set him free to make his knife."

Ed Fowler


 
Hello,

Thanks for the words about my videos, i do have a Heat treat video covering carbon steels such as 5160,1095,01 ect....

i Also have a Kydex sheath making video along with the hollow and flat grinding videos.

I do plan once i get everyone caught up on there orders to make a few more videos covering the rest of the aspects of knifemaking. I feel that using the equipment i do and making the kind of knives i make, anyone with a limited tool budget can make world class blades along with the best of the makers out there using more expensive equipment. I always say "its not the Machine that makes a great knifemaker its the technique"

Regards, Allen Blade

PS. And i have seen the Ed Fowler video and it is a good video covering his style of knifemaking.

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Hey Phil: Do you want to borrow my video(s)? Lemme know and I'll drop them in the mail.
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Thanks for the offer Cray, but I'd much rather pay Allen for the videos.
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Oh hiya Allen!
Good to see you posting. I understand that you're pretty close to being up to full speed. I can't wait to get my Stag Dagger...you do remember my knife don't you?

 
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WHy yes i do remember it phil, isnt it the Frost Cutlery Dagger i am regrinding and putting stag on for you,muahhahhahhha ! ! !

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isnt it the Frost Cutlery Dagger i am regrinding and putting stag on for you,muahhahhahhha ! ! !
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Yeah, that's the one and please don't forget that Hamon Line you put on it with Crayons.
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Great thread!

I suppose Robert 'Bob' Ogg's video is the only one I have ever seen.... Can they get any better???

It was truly a moving video... Bob was getting older (in the video I seen), but you could tell by the way that he and his wife carried on, that they were both full of life.... He was not a fancy type maker, but he, with his old, worn equipment, was truly an artist.... He made making a folder look as easy as bakeing a cake, and he also had a great deal of fun while doing so....

Like I said, I have only seen one knifemaking video, but I am almost certain that there is not another on the market that could motivate one like Bob's did.... I HIGHLY reccommend it to anyone who is interested in knives, whether you are a maker, or, just a collector.... GREAT STUFF!
 
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Phil, quit giving away all of my secrets!

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