Knife Part Measurements?

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All,

I was wondering if there was a resource for knife parts measurements?

I was looking for a replacement screw for one of my knives and found the data all over the place, but then started thinking beyond that.

Was thinking of something like
Brand: Knife NameKnife Name
  • Pivot ID
  • Pivot OD
  • Pivot Screw Type
  • Pivot Shape
  • Pivot Thickness
  • Bearing Type
  • Bearing ID
  • Bearing OD
  • Bearing Thickness
  • Ball diameter if applicable
  • Back Spacer Lenght
  • Back Spacer ID
  • Pack Spacer OD
  • Back Spacer Screw Type
  • Back Spacer Shape

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I've never seen a parts list for knives from any of the makers. Typically, someone will call the maker and ask for the specific part they are looking to replace. Then the maker will either send the part free of charge, charge a fee for the part or tell the person to send the knife to them for the part.
 
I guess i was thinking beyond just parts replacement. I.E. what if you wanted to find new hardware, or hardware of a different color?

Depending on the lock design could we put a something like a PM2 on ball bearings? I understand the compression lock may be a insurmountable challenge without modifying the scales.
 
The type of screws that you are talking about are called machine screws. The threads are uniformally spaced and close together. There is no taper to the shank as in a wood screw or thread cutting ability as in a sheet metal screw. These are meant to be used with a nut or in a tapped hole.
The convention is to identify the screw as follows: Length X diameter-thread pitch-head type. For example: 1/2”X#5-40 cap screw where 1/2” is the length under the head, #5 is the wire gauge size (1/8” diameter), 40 is the pitch in threads per inch, and cap screw is a tall head with parallel sides and usually a hex (Allen) recess. The description can also include the material and/or the finish.
In the metric system, the description is similar: 5mmX2.5-0.45 button head/TORX recess. 5mm is the length under the head, 2.5 is the major diameter in mm (outside the threads), 0.45 is the distance between threads in mm, and button head is the head shape with a TORX (star) recess. You can also add that the screw is stainless or Zinc plated etc.
Imperial threads are labeled in threads per inch. Metric threads are reciprocal ( mm/thread). One system measure threads per length, the other length per thread. Wire gauge sizes in the US system is similar to shotgun gauges ie. 16 gauge is 16 Lead balls per pound. #5 wire gauge is 1 pound of steel wire for 5 feet of length. The higher the gauge number the smaller the diameter and the more feet per pound.
When making pivot parts, you do not want the blade to turn on a threaded post. You can put a bushing over the pivot screw, or you can use a T-nut. T-nuts that are slabbed (D cross section) let you adjust the blade squeeze with one screw. Bushings are squeezed between the handle slabs, so the bushing thickness is your blade squeeze adjustment.
If you have thread charts, thread gauges (combs), and a caliper, you can order fasteners online from industrial supply houses or knife supply outlets.
 
I've already been doing the measurements you note above. I'm also considering to ensure I can also notate the detent circumference, and perhaps the center of gravity.

I guess my thought was making it searchable across knives. Perhaps the handle and scales for one knife would work on another. Perhaps the screws on the 4 dollar Walmart folder are same type as the screws on the PM2, making that an easy way to locally source or scavenge parts.
 
Good luck on that. I have noticed size changes of screws and pivots on Spyderco and Benchmade models without any change in the model name or number. I am also not sure I would like to use screws scavenged from cheap imports on more expensive knives.
 
Don't forget torque specifications, wet / dry.
Thread locker, any special tools needed & the SDS of any materials .
 
There is no way the hardware on a $4.00 knife is going to hold up.
Agreed, the screws will most likely strip when they are removed.
Joe

Good luck on that. I have noticed size changes of screws and pivots on Spyderco and Benchmade models without any change in the model name or number. I am also not sure I would like to use screws scavenged from cheap imports on more expensive knives.
 
I had a big pack of assorted screws I used for replacement parts on knives for about 10$. You had to do some trial and error for the one you needed but it worked. Think i got it at lowes.
 
While it would be a neat idea for a knife resource, I doubt anyone will put in the effort unless they can make some $$ off it.

Othersise maybe someone could set it up like a wiki where you search by knife and users add details.
 
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