knife patterns

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Hey guys..i still havent been doing this too long..i was wondering how to get better at making patterns for my knives? I see some on here that are awesome..so what gives..the fact im a terrible with a pencil doesnt help..but there has to be more to it..I know practice has alot to do with it..but if theres any tricks i might use id be happy to hear em..thanks alot.
 
This is gonna look like I'm pushing the books I have for sale but I'm not.
Get every knife book you can and look through them. Check out every knife picture and find the patterns you like. If you see one you really like, modify it enough where the knife you're making isn't a direct copy. If you choose to make a direct copy, get ahold of the knife maker that made the one in the picture and get thier permission and give them credit when you sell the knife you make.
Another method would be to find a book that has some pictures of generic blade shapes. Some of the how to make knives books can be helpful there. Then you just add the guard/bolsters and handle with pommel.
One of the hardest things for me is accetping my own work on paper, but they sure look good in steel!
 
I'll send you a copy of Lloyd Hardings files.There are 100s of styles and templates.Just print out one that interest you,enlarge it till it is the right size,cut it out and you have a template.Either glue it to a piece of shirt cardboard for a permanent template,or glue it to the steel and trim away.When Lloyd passed away he gave his patterns to all the knifemakers.Lloyd will live forever now.
Send me an email so I can email back the files.
Stacy
 
Will Hurley has the Lloyd Harding files on his site for download.
Easier than emailing the files, as some email programs limit attachment sizes.
 
Hi, I am new to the forum and was wondering if someone would mind emailing the Hurley knife patterns to me. I tried all the download links I have found, even the Hurley website but none work. I think someone on here by the name of Stacy has the patterns if He/She would mind emailing them to me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Matt
 
Hi, I am new to the forum and was wondering if someone would mind emailing the Hurley knife patterns to me. I tried all the download links I have found, even the Hurley website but none work. I think someone on here by the name of Stacy has the patterns if He/She would mind emailing them to me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Matt




Hey Matt RE your first post- Welcome to Shop Talk -
They are Lloyd Harding designs, Hurley hosted them until his website dropped them.
If you searched "lloyd harding knife patterns", you may have found them under that search type.


Have a look at this posting full of info for new makers.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...how-to-get-the-bolts-in?p=9761859#post9761859

Then the link for "Google and E books" - full of good info you may like
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603203


This post
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...-making-books-on-Google?p=8551482#post8551482



This Link is still active, I just tested it now.
http://www.mediafire.com/?bvr7nnmcc88sh5g


or use the torrent
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4996025/Lloyd_Harding_-_100s_of_Knife_Patterns_-_KnifemakerC
 
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My process is figuring my dimensions of Steel Avail. / Using. Take a piece of graph paper and draw the box you need to stay in (Try to think outside the box but keep your design inside the box). Decide your handle length and mark it on the graph paper, decide your blade length mark it. then start drawing with a little practice it will come easy and you will know immediately if you hate the look. How the knife will handle and feel in the hand is a whole different monster. Good Luck
 
I know this is a necropost.... But, I'll answer it anyways....:D Maybe someone else can say how they draw their knives???

I look at pictures in my knife books, magazines and online for inspiration and draw on a piece of legal copy paper. 8.5"x14" I need to get some ledger 11"x17" for some Bowie, and Waki designs I have in mind... :)

I use a mechanical pencil, a clear plastic ruler and a set of french curves. I absolutely can NOT draw anything freehand. Period. But, with the ruler and french curves I can draw some very nice looking knives. It's absolutely amazing to me the difference. I'm eventually going to buy some more french curves in various sizes from a sight such as this. http://www.draftingsteals.com/catalog-drafting---drawing-aides-curves.html

Thanks Count, I downloaded the Harding designs for future inspiration. :thumbup:
 
I do pretty much the same as you fluidsteel. I do most of my drawing free hand with alot of work with the eraser until I get what I want. I went to an art store and bought a large 12" x 24" spiral bound tablet of artist paper. I keep all of my designs in there with notes about the blade, before, and after I make the knife.
 
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Fluidsteel, referring to the link you posted. The 6 piece set of ships curves looks real handy for knife makers.
 
I am with you guys, i draw everything on paper until i am happy with it. You need to have it aesthetically pleasing yet fully functional. Remember that in nature there are no straight hard lines. Curves are essential to making a pleasing design. The curve rules that Fluid posted will go a long way in helping design your stuff. Maybe being an artist helps me out, but i really like curvature and flow in a design. I will post a small tutorial later when i get a sec about how i design knife ideas.
 
Sometimes I design knives by drawing them as fluid steel describes, other times I design knives with cereal boxes and a pair of scissors. I make and design mostly full tang knives doing stock removal, and find that getting the handle to feel right is a lot more difficult than figuring out what the blade will look like. I end up with a cardboard profile/template.

Regardless if they start out as a sketch or a cardboard profile, I scan them and redraw the profile so that I end up with a clear line drawing, black on white. You can see them HERE. Lately I've been drawing designs for knives with rather narrow blades of 3/4 inch. It would not bother me is someone used one of my drawings to make a knife. Just because I drew it doesn't mean it has never been done before. Some of them are real stinkers and impractical because I was experimenting.

To print them out I place them in a WORD document and using the handy-dandy ruler at the top of the screen that shows the size of the text area, I can enlarge or shrink them to whatever size I want, usually making the handle the proper size and adjusting the blade after it's printed out.

I also trace knives others have made and play around changing different aspects of the design to see how they look on the computer screen at least. They can be seen HERE. Some of them are from knives that appeared in the forum. Unfortunately I did not keep track of who made the original knife and can't give credit to the originator. I started out just collecting pictures of knives to stir my creative juices and to see how other more experienced makers made their knives.

- Paul Meske
 
I usually start off looking at some designs I like. Then I draw a similar blade on regular paper. From there I use tracing paper and modify it further. Change to a different blade style, add a little here, take off a little there. Most times I wind up with a very different knife after I make all the changes (these are the ones I plan on making).

Other times I just start drawing my own blade then use the tracing paper to take off or add dimensions.

It will change further when I start to blank out the blade. Sometimes it just needs some more tweaking.
 
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Ok so as i said earlier, i did a small, not so good tutorial. To do this i start with a clean piece of paper, draw a center line then i think of the overall dimensions i want the knife to end up as.
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Ok after determining how long i want this to be, i determine a width...In this case it all fits in a probably 1.75 inch field.
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Then i draw in my rough shapes...blade, handle and guard. Once you get the curvature you want, you can tweak the design with an eraser.
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I start cutting my designs in a little bit. Clean up the lines, add where i want the bevels to lay, add width to the cutting edge, etc.
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Finally i decide where i want the pins to lay and the final shapes. After all of this i make a photocopy of the original so the master copy stays put in one of my drawing books.
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Like i said, it is nothing fancy but it might help some of you get the design aspects worked out a little faster.

Thanks for looking
Mike D.
 
That is how I do it also Mike. Some times if I have a blank of steelI will be using I will trace around that blank and design a knife to fit inside the blank.
 
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