Knife sharpening

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I have never been any good at sharpening a knife in the past and having my Cammilus #9 for the last 10 years it may need some help. Can anyone give me a tip on this subject. Should I go and buy a stone and oil or use a mechanical device of some sort. Thanks for your help :D
 
Hi Zman, I think I have been sharpening knives for about 50 years and I am always a sucker to try a new system that comes out. I bought a spyderco triangle system when they first came out and a guy was selling them like a snake oil salesman in the middle of a Christmas mall.

I find that these ceramic systems are excellent for most people. The secret is with ceramic systems as with any system you may choose is keeping your edge consistant. When you slide your blade down the ceramic stone or across a bench stone, besure you always keep it in the same plane as the last stroke and the one before that.

There is a new system out that has little carbide bits set is some kind of base. Some of them you can keep in your wallet. Klawhorn, Sterling and EZ Edge are a couple that come to mind. These work super for a working knife that needs sharpened a lot. Their fast and if your careful you can put a hair shaving edge on your knife. There are several of these little sharpeners running around the pipeline crews where I work and everyone likes them alot.

Its a personal choice. You might have to try several before you find the one you really like. Try borrowing some from your friends to try.

Good luck

Joe
 
I have the same Spyderco too (I found mine in the middle of the road coming home one evening!) It does work well but I have found that if the edge needs more than just a touch up it doesnt work well for me. What I usually use is a medium or soft arkansas stone to establish an edge and than use the Spyderco to finish. If you arent good with a stone or havent used one than you would be better off getting one of those kits that establish the angle for you. There only about 20 or 30 dollars.
 
-I've used a benchstone freehand on an opinel-knife, seemed to work out great, really really sharp, but on higher end knifes in harder steels like VG-10 I does not work at all. Seems to me that freehand/benchstone is super if you master it but to me, well... it's just to hard (to many people...).

-Perhaps here (on this forum) or www.knifeforums.com you can find someone who can show you the ropes in sharpening, why not a local gunshop?

-Spyderco "204" Sharpmaker is good, some say the optional diamond rods for the "204" can make it more aggressive. Check out the following thread for the Spyderco, standard it offers only three sharpening angles. That really should be enough but hey... http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1887293#post1887293. The Edgepro (Apex or Pro) is also widely hailed. Both systems "give you a real sharpening hand" ;-).

-Ask at a gunshop or a friend/forumite where you can have your knifes sharpened the right way. Normally it should not take as long as shipping it back to the manufacturer... Perhaps you can even take a look :-)

-Buy hard-wear knives in steels that hold their edge long (beware: those steels are hell to sharpen when they finally need to). Some examples: S90V, CPM9V, CPM10V, CPM15V (with the last three, the higher the number the higher your wear resistance, last tree are not stainless). Take a look at www.crucible.com.

-Depending on your needs a serreated edge (Spyderco with their SpyderEdge...) can help, The serrations must be sharpened patiently, one bye one, so ounce they need maintenance, you'll have to give it some time.

-Some knive-edges are standardly coated with a highwear coating, to protect the edge. I even believe you can send or bring your knives to several companies that do it on older knives. Beware: you have to get through the coating yourself if you want to touch up the edge, Ideally the coating company should sharpen your knife before recoating it when you find it is dulled down. Try Bodycote.

-Use the right blade for the right job... grind, blade-form, size, finish... determine how good your knife will perform.

-If you cut something that lies on a surface, try to use a soft surface like wood or so. Don't cut an apple on a steel worktop. Investigate what your will be cutting for hard objects like nails, staples...

-Corrosion-protection is especially suited for the edge.

-I believe that most serious manufacturers will touch up your knife, not only the edge but also removing scratches, checking the lock and such...

-the high-end ceramic blades stay sharp veryyyyyyyyyyyy long when not abused. Newer and better ceramic materials are on the market. Blade will not rust however some are that brittle that if you just drop them they break like glass (don't even think about prying or hammering...). I'm not sure but most of these knifes you can NOT sharpen yourself (I hear newer materials allow this anyway). If it ounce should get dull you must hand it over to a specialist/manufacterer. I myself have a gorgeous Boker, ceramic blade and titanium handle, it is very dressy and light and it serves well for light use.

-The is a book or video or something like that named "RazorEdge" (not sure). Anyway, it is conceived as a must for sharpening. Personally, I do not care that much for supersharp "razorblades"... If supersharp was that good then why don't we all just carry a barber-style plain old razor...?

-Sharpening hints are availabale throughout the Net... www.knifecenter.com is a good help.

-Kives require regular maintenance like cleaning and lubricating but also sharpening, do not wait to sharpen your knife untill it's too dull because then it's even harder.

-If their is something you don't know or you're in doubt, ask for help (... over here...).


I not much of a sharpener myself but collectioning/using knifes without sharpening just is not the same. (I once asked some custom makers if they could make a CPM15V serrated blade with a boron-nitride edge-coating *lol* but the ones I asked declined my request.)

Good luck!
 
Paper Wheels, Paper Wheels, Paper Wheels.

OK I'm biased, opinionated, and I don't even have 50 years of experience. So, you should temper my attitude with those more qualified. That said:

Paper Wheels, Paper Wheels, Paper Wheels

These are the ones I use:

http://www.sharpeningwheels.com/razorinf.htm

But most of the knife maker suppliers sell them now.

One thing I've found is I can control the angle better than any hand sharpening method. It gives more consistent results than ANY of the jig systems like Gatco or Lansky (Don't use those - the angle changes as you move away from the jig and it marks up the blade). I can double bevel, if I want. I can polish the edge, if I want. It doesn't take years to master. It's faster than hand.

I use them to sharpen knives for friends, co workers, etc. They pay me pretty well and are really happy with the results.

Again, I don't have all the experience as some of these folks, but most of the people I know regularly wear band-aids. :D

Steve
 
OK, Ok, I didn't want to count um up or admit it, but I have been
sharpening knives for over 50 years. My son has had me sharpen his knives for many, many years. Last year, for Christmas, I bought him a
JEWELSTICK diamond knife sharpener. I really bought it for him to
touch-up his broadheads. Well guess what, he just told me he sharpened
his D2 hunting knife to hair popping sharp. How did you do it, I asked. He said just like you told me. First I used the medium side, with constant angle till I could feel the burr, then I stroked it on the fine side to remove all or most of the burr, then I stropped it on leather. SHARP KNIFE! I told him that he didn't need to use the medium side, but he actually removed enough metal to set the angle and CREATE THE BURR. Once this burr is lightly removed, the knife is sharp. I know it must be hard to learn to hold a constant angle, but this isn't Rocket Science, I think anyone can do it. They just need a tool that has a course, medium, and very fine diamond surfaces that will really take off the metal, no matter what the steel. The main thing that is required, is determination and work. If someone is always going to do it for you, you will never learn. The diamond tool is about 30.00
 
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