knife ward off attack from mountainlion?

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Do you guys recall the moutain lion attack on mountain bike rider in Colorado a few months ago? I wonder if the rider would have better chance of survival if she /he had a full tang blade as defensive weapon?
 
some mountain bike riding friends of mine out there have told me that many bike riders have taken to wearing strap on halloween masks on the back of their heads. or hockey ("jason") style masks. apparently the lions stalk and pounce on their prey from behind so the theory is that a lion will think you are facing it and not attack.

who knows if it works or not.

personally, I think I'd prefer a big stick to a knife in event of being attacked. A gun would be even better.
 
And people wonder why I carry a gun!

Somebody has done some serious drugs in the past or has too much free time there not2sharp to come up with that there video.
 
ANGRYMOB said:
Well, better to have a knife than nothing, yes???
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yes, but...probably not very effective, not that it wouldn't be better than a folder- but I think either would be superflous and you would probably be better off at trying to scare off with movement, noise, etc. than trying to engage with a knife.

kind of reminds me of when my mom was going berry picking and asked to borrow the .22 pistol in case she ran into a bear... (granted- the noise might do the trick- but the bullet itself certainly wouldn't)
 
geekswithguns said:
yes, but...probably not very effective, not that it wouldn't be better than a folder- but I think either would be superflous and you would probably be better off at trying to scare off with movement, noise, etc. than trying to engage with a knife.

kind of reminds me of when my mom was going berry picking and asked to borrow the .22 pistol in case she ran into a bear... (granted- the noise might do the trick- but the bullet itself certainly wouldn't)
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A large fixed blade knife would be quite effective in getting the animal off of you, a lot more so than trying to scare it with noise...
 
I wonder if the rider would have better chance of survival if she /he had a full tang blade as defensive weapon?

I was thinking of adding a small flair gun to the kit. It should help to fend off animals and can otherwise be handy.

n2s
 
I know that a favorite for "warding off" bears is a .44 mag. A small caliber pistol just won't penetrate a charging bear's skull. I see a knife mostly as a backup... It's much better to keep a bear or other large animal far away from you. How useful would a knife be if the mountain lion has your arm(s) or your head in its jaws?
 
I just watched a show on the animal channel where a man successfully fought off a cougar that blind sided him, with a buck 110! He lost half his hand and his right eye though..... :eek:
 
You could always take one of these guys jogging with you for protection.

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geekswithguns said:
yes, but...probably not very effective, not that it wouldn't be better than a folder- but I think either would be superflous and you would probably be better off at trying to scare off with movement, noise, etc. than trying to engage with a knife.

kind of reminds me of when my mom was going berry picking and asked to borrow the .22 pistol in case she ran into a bear... (granted- the noise might do the trick- but the bullet itself certainly wouldn't)
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This one might help.http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EegM2LVq3cuXEA.....not very practical for bike riding, though :D
 
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8317484/

NAIROBI - A 73-year-old Kenyan grandfather reached into the mouth of an attacking leopard and tore out its tongue to kill it, authorities said Wednesday.

Peasant farmer Daniel M’Mburugu was tending to his potato and bean crops in a rural area near Mount Kenya when the leopard charged out of the long grass and leapt on him.

M’Mburugu had a machete in one hand but dropped that to thrust his fist down the leopard’s mouth. He gradually managed to pull out the animal’s tongue, leaving it in its death-throes.

“It let out a blood-curdling snarl that made the birds stop chirping,” he told the daily Standard newspaper of how the leopard came at him and knocked him over.

The leopard sank its teeth into the farmer’s wrist and mauled him with its claws. “A voice, which must have come from God, whispered to me to drop the panga (machete) and thrust my hand in its wide-open mouth. I obeyed,” M’Mburugu said.

As the leopard was dying, a neighbor heard the screams and arrived to finish it off with a machete.

M’Mburugu was toasted as a hero in his village Kihato after the incident earlier this month. He was also given free hospital treatment by astonished local authorities.

“This guy is very lucky to be alive,” Kenya Wildlife Service official Connie Maina told Reuters, confirming details of the incident.
 
You could always try one of these:

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SeaStick Defense Weapon
(Bang Stick or Sharkstick)
The Bangstick is 13oz. and 26 1/8" long assembled. It separates into two 14" sections for compact holstering and is made of all stainless steel and hard anodized aluminum for durability and corrosion resistance. We have .44 Magnum, .357 magnum and .357 maximum available. The five foot fisherman's model is available in all calibers as well.

link:
http://rayzplace.com/per_dv3.htm

informative safety article on same:
http://www.bluewaterhunter.com/education/education_bangsticks.html

n2s
 
geekswithguns said:
kind of reminds me of when my mom was going berry picking and asked to borrow the .22 pistol in case she ran into a bear... (granted- the noise might do the trick- but the bullet itself certainly wouldn't)
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I have seen pictures (national geographic, maybe) of a woman in alaska sitting in front of the pelt from a 13 ft kodiak bear that she dropped with a single shot .22 as it was charging. It is better than nothing- black bears are going to be easier yet. I also know of a guy in my area who killed a blackbear with a knife as it was mauling his hunting parter.
 
Toys. Useless. The mountain lion attacks from behind, giving no warning of its presence, and by the time a cyclist knows he's being attacked, a knife is absolutely no use, a gun will just as likely blow his own brains out, and a bang stick would probably be rolling into the underbrush.

Imagine the scene before you suggest solutions to a problem you haven't thought through.

A mask on the back of the head might work. Villagers in India have used them as protection against tigers. I have no idea how many tigers were fooled. But riding or walking alone through a big cat's territory just makes the question of survival more difficult to solve.
 
That Kenyan grandfather is freaking hardcore. I probably wouldn't mess with a guy that pwn3d a tiger with his bare hands.

I don't know much about...uh...mountain lions...but....I guess I'm just not that worried about it.

I guess I'd be more worried about crazed dogs or something.

But not one on one confrontations. I've totally owned (big) dogs that have attacked me one on one. It's the packs you have to worry about...
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Toys. Useless. The mountain lion attacks from behind, giving no warning of its presence, and by the time a cyclist knows he's being attacked, a knife is absolutely no use, a gun will just as likely blow his own brains out, and a bang stick would probably be rolling into the underbrush.

Imagine the scene before you suggest solutions to a problem you haven't thought through.

A mask on the back of the head might work. Villagers in India have used them as protection against tigers. I have no idea how many tigers were fooled. But riding or walking alone through a big cat's territory just makes the question of survival more difficult to solve.
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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8317484/
 
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