Knife wisdom from a MO farm boy

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Warning - post involves a Peanut moral. About a month or so ago I went to a flea market in search of edged tools, military items, old books, and maybe some old fishing stuff. I went over to the section where the knives usually were and stumbled upon the holy grail of old knife lovers. Dozens of pocket knives, some blades worn down literally to the size of a toothpick, were there. I'll admit it, I didn't buy anything as I am extremely picky with my knives and didn't see anything that particularly appealed to me. But, I did meet a true knife knut. He was a older gentleman in overalls and was the owner of the knives. He saw me checking out his knives and sparked a conversation.
Well I admitted to being a knife knut and he did to. I said I had a couple dozen knives or so and he happily but a bit shamefully admitted that he had a couple hundred. We talked about our favorite patterns and such for a while. The conversation drifted to knives today. He told me that he had been raised on a farm and had been carrying a pocket knife since he was four years old. He mentioned he could not imagine not carrying a pocket knife. We talked a bit and the question of knives in public came up. What he said surprised me because it was different to what I usually hear. The old farm boy said that even back in the old days pulling out a knife, even a small one, in public sometimes frightened people. However, it was just something you just didn't do unless the situation permitted. The only time you did so was with your buddies and that it was natural to whittle on a stick around them. The point was that people just had the courtesy to avoid causing a disturbance by flashing their knife.
We also got on the subject of small knives and big knives. Growing up on a proud Missouri farm, he was exposed to many farmers and surely had to do a lot of work (being a non-farm boy, i cannot give that many examples of work he may have done). I started thinking about the big stockmans and sodbusters that I always imagined the farmers with. Again, he said something a little different. On Sundays and around the house these farmers chose their little pen knives, but when it got down to work they chose "big knives", as this man put it. He said they chose fixed blades for their real work. Their pen knives were for cleaning their nails, digging out a splinter, opening letters, and maybe slicing off a piece of cheese.
I hadn't given much thought to what he said. Last week I put down my peanut and started carrying my 301, which was used on a camping and fishing trip (yeah that's right, I fish in November. It's called fishing not catching). I felt like there was more power in a knife like it and maybe i could be a one knife guy. But all I ended up doing with it was cutting fishing line and cutting my sandwich in half, things that could be easily accomplished with my little Peanut. Any hard work I did was done with my mora, which got me thinking about what the old farm boy told me. I soon downgraded to a US 34OT because of the flat ground blades and carbon steel. Then I realized that the peanuts main blade is the same size as the 34OT's main blade and I could hear Carl saying I told you so. So I picked up my peanut like an old friend and dropped it in my pocket. ...And I got the idea to polish it and it bit me pretty bad, I guess it was saying something. If a pen knife and a fixed blade is all that a farmer needed, its probably all that i need as far as knives go. I learned a few things - listen to older people, carry a nut, and don't betray it or it will hurt you.
Sorry for the long rambling. If i told anyone else this, well.. they would thing i was a knut. :D
 
I grew up in a small town in Michigan and back in the 70's when I was a kid I always carried a Buck 309 that my parents got me. I remember most of the adult men I knew carrying pocket knives of some sort. No one at that time really blinked if you respectfully pulled out your pocket knife for some chore. I think if it would have been a big fixed blade you might have gotten some looks.

I am now a private school teacher and I have worked all over the US and I am currently in Europe. On Monday we had a "Teacher Work Day" with no students. The owner of the school had us do some team building exercises. On one of the exercises another teacher used rope with tape on it. It stuck to it pretty badly and she looked at me and said, "Do you have a knife on you? You guys always carry a knife." I was really surprised because I really don't know this teacher. She is new this year. I do quietly carry a knife because there are no specific rules at this school telling me I can't. I said yes I do and I pulled it out and started to cut the tape off. She then said loudly looking around the room "Why is it that all you guys always carry a knife?" Not wanting to start a big incident with the owner of the school not five feet away, I just said to her, "Why is it that some people ask someone for a tool and then question them for actually having it?"

I am surprised how few men I meet nowadays actually carry a knife or at least have access to them in a bag or car etc. A few weeks ago my wife and I were invited to a friend's cottage. When we got there the power was off and we had to find the fuse box to turn it on. The owner didn't have any tools or knives or anything. The box covers here are often plastic with no handles. You have to slip something in the edge and pry it open. I pulled out my small pocket knife and was able to get it open. The father looked at me and said, "I see you're one of those real men who carry a knife." I kind of want to buy him a small pocket knife for Christmas but I am unsure if he will really use it.

I flew back home for the first time in a couple of years this summer to visit my family in MI. Everyone there either had a knife on them or a multi-tool on their belt. It felt really good.
 
" I went to a flea market in search of edged tools, military items, old books, and maybe some old fishing stuff" why would anybody be interested in old junk? hahahahaahha. i love it1@%$#@!

"Growing up on a proud Missouri farm, he was exposed to many farmers and surely had to do a lot of work (being a non-farm boy, i cannot give that many examples of work " ie.; watering stock,fixing fence,putting up hay, pulling calves, milking cows, grinding feed, planting corn,beans, cutting corn,weeding, cleaning out the barn,etc;... good 'ol Mudzoory farm life.

all part of pocket knife history,not legend

how many pocket knives lost in the hay fields? answer: all of them.

in public school back in the 60's & 70's , every guy carried a knife . i once had a pearl handled pickle knife, lost it to the superintendent , that's another story.

a small rural town in north Mudzoory where farming was a way of life for many families, carrying a pocket knife was derigueur. nobody thought twice about it.
old timers used their pocket knives to cut plug tobacco and for cleaning game and fish.


you write well keep posting ,

i began collecting pocket knives after an introduction to a Bib Overall'd gentlemen who had his pockets full of congress and stockman knives.

all good

buzz
 
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I still like slipjoints with multiblades, and one hand openers, but this little peanut has really grown on me. It is a very versatile knife for it's size.
 
I am surprised how few men I meet nowadays actually carry a knife .

So am I its almost unbelievable. Guess I'm just happy I grew up where I did with the tools that
were a way of life. "Is that a weapon"??!------really.
Ken.
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Great reading creekwalker :thumbup:

edit:, I am very much like you, if I go to any markets, garage sales I scan immediately for knives, here in New Zealand not too many people carry a pocket knife, I didnt myself either..until I caught the disease :), I find myself talking to a lot of people here, and when someone spark up interest and displays a more-than usual interest, I have often handed them a knife that I have gone through at home that usually thrills them to bits!.
My job takes me to many workshops, and the other day I had just recieved a neat little box from Jason, inside I had purchased a couple of very nice older knives, one..a Beautifull bone handled Easy Opener by Boker USA, the other was a Schrade Walden Stockman with fantastic Celluloid scales...with it I purchased a lovely Mini Trapper by Case...
My customer...who is a great guy, was all over them, and his eyes just lit up when handling the Mini Trapper...this knife has great jigged bone...a lovely wee knife..
As I was leaving he said.."hey Duncan.. you have left your knife here"... I replied back to him...no I havent, it yours my friend, just promise me you will carry this knife in your pocket every day for the next month, and you will find that if you ever leave it home...you should feel uncomplete!... I am not joking when I say his eyes watered up a bit, he couldnt believe it, and now he wants me to show him how to sharpen it up nicely.... it worked!
Im always trying to spread something that we here havent been brought up to do, and that is to experience the joy of carrying a nice pocket knife, but I too am often questioned about why I carry a pocket knife, its also how you use that knife in front of the unknowing person as well, ...you often find yourself being watched as you pull out that knife, open it up, do you thing gently, ..give it a wee look before you slip it back into your front pocket....and then the question usually follows :thumbup:, I think its great, my friends always ask what I am carrying today, and ask to see if they can handle the knife, now they too have their own knives, slowly but surely, the passion is spreading thanks to people like you, and others here in Traditionals.
Please keep us posted on your knife travels :thumbup:
 
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Amen,great story!!I recently got a work Peanut to go with my Case Stag Damascus Peanut.It has brown synthetic handles and a stainless(heresy)blade.I was recently crawling in and out of a boiler with my Damascus nut and it worried me when I was done.So I bought me a work nut for those situations that can occure at work.Yeah,I'm a Peanut convert too.
 
My Grandpa (on my Dad's side) always carried a little two-blade John Primble penknife. Until my Dad got "bit" by the "knife bug" late in his 50's, he always carried a little Old Timer small stockman. If either of them ever needed more knife, they used a small fixed-blade. I inadvertently left my yellow-handled Case Peanut home when coming back over to Iraq this time...I'm really missing it! (I do have my Case 63032 medium stockman with me, however!) I find more and more, I am carrying and using that knife when I'm home...it's all I really seem to need most days, and I live on a small ranch in Texas! If I need "more knife", I find myself reaching for a small fixed-blade...just like my Grandpa, my Dad and the old farmer did!

Ron
 
My Grandfather gave me a slick black Case 20-40 peanut in the 70's when I was a boy, That gave me the disease. I carried it to school all the time from then on, many others were carrying beat up buck 110's in the holster on their belts IN SCHOOL! I still have the knife and wouldnt sell it for the world. My grandfather was from upstate new york, and seemed to have a lot of local knives, he hunted and fished, Irish Ironworker, so yeah, he drank. Would go out with Grandma at the cottage way before everyone and bring back northern pike. Recently, my aunt said she found one of his old knives, it had paint on it and was old, and would give it to me. The last time I got one it was his camp king he always had on him, was expecting something similar. To my surprise, i was handed a slick black dogleg Mastercraft by Robeson! NO grinding marks on the blade, still has snap. He knew how to sharpen a knife, and he taught me!
 
My employer employs approximately 35,000 people and there are many in my office who swear that there is nobody in this organization who is into knives as much as I am. And I cannot help but to spread the wealth. People are forever asking to borrow my knife or ask me to tell them about a particular one I might have on me and what do I use it for, where did I get it, etc. We have automobile trunks and SUVs full of equipment that doesn't get used but once in a blue moon, but my pocket knives get used multiple times every day. I don't intentionally flash a knife around in public (staying low key IS the key), but I am not shy about producing a knife when it is clearly needed for a job at hand. People who do not know me will sometimes ask why I carry a knife and I tell them that it is one of the most useful tools ever created. They may say that they think of it more as a weapon, but when I explain to them that a pair of scissors, a pencil, or literally almost anything could be used as a weapon, then they tend to quickly come around to my way of thinking. Now if I could only get them to get their own knives so I don't have to keep lending mine out...
 
Some really awesome stories in hear, I love all of blade forums but this area in particular is making me very happy to be a knife nut!


I'm a fairly young guy and still have both my parents and all but one of my grandparents. but stories like these make me want to go spend more time with them and truly enjoy them while I can.

Again this is a good place with good people, Glad to be here.
 
My Grandpa (on my Dad's side) always carried a little two-blade John Primble penknife. Until my Dad got "bit" by the "knife bug" late in his 50's, he always carried a little Old Timer small stockman. If either of them ever needed more knife, they used a small fixed-blade.

Perhaps we can blame Buck's 110 for ushering in a cultural lack of acceptance of a fixed blade?

In my workplace, the Leatherman belt holster is nearly as commonplace as the cell phone holster. People don't say "boo" about them. I've seen several folks carrying a Buck 110 in a belt holster too with no problems. (I'm not mentioning the number of knife clips you see on the outsides of pockets around here either) I think 1 of 2 things is going on. I suspect most non-knife people wouldn't understand the difference between a folding hunter and multi-tool unless you dropped it on their foot. Or, I suspect knife people understand that somebody near them is carrying a Real Knife (tm) and don't much care one way or the other. Either way, the big-ol' Buck 110 just walks on by in the hallway without causing a raucous.

But man-o-man!!! Just imagine the fun and hilarity that would ensue if you tried to walk around here with a fixed blade knife of *ANY* kind attached to your belt. No way that would be tolerated!!!

I'll make my obligatory shout out for my Opinel #8. It never causes a stir when I use it at work (like, daily) while a smaller Buck 112 or any modern tactical will get "weapon" comments.
 
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My grandfather carried a yellow handled three bladed case stockmen which he used for most knife related chores. I remember him cutting bull calves, young boars and sharpening a carpenters pencil with that knife. I also remember he had a small pen knife that he referred to as his "Sunday go to meeting knife". I still remember him and other men after services were through he and other men of his age and profession would pull out their small bladed knives and clean their fingers nails as they visited and talked about their crops, the weather and other pertinent matters. I miss him and those days!
 
I too am a Missouri farm boy and I really enjoyed your post. Some of it took me back aways with my Dad and Grandfather and knives. Thanks
 
As a scout in the '70s, I carried a pocket knife every where, including school. Mostly an Imperial scout model, or a cheap barlow.

Around work and town, I like a peanut or sway back jack. Venture out in the woods, I prefer a bigger knife, like the Buck 307.

The point about blade size and getting the job done is true. I could carry a smaller knife, but the "satisfaction" aspect of the big Buck is there.

Thanks Ozark, great story!
 
My Grandpa (on my Dad's side) always carried a little two-blade John Primble penknife. Until my Dad got "bit" by the "knife bug" late in his 50's, he always carried a little Old Timer small stockman. If either of them ever needed more knife, they used a small fixed-blade. I inadvertently left my yellow-handled Case Peanut home when coming back over to Iraq this time...I'm really missing it! (I do have my Case 63032 medium stockman with me, however!) I find more and more, I am carrying and using that knife when I'm home...it's all I really seem to need most days, and I live on a small ranch in Texas! If I need "more knife", I find myself reaching for a small fixed-blade...just like my Grandpa, my Dad and the old farmer did!

Ron
Be careful, the peanut doesn't like being neglected! Best wishes to you in Iraq.
Thanks for the replies guys. I guess we can all agree on one thing, the knives we saw on the men in our lives influences what we carry today. I have made great-grandfather's 3 1/4" stockman knife. It is made in St. Louis and around 100 years old. and guess what? it's main blade is same size as the peanut's :D
 
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