I am a nob at sharpening but i have been sharpening my own knives for a while know ide say about 15 years and I have had my fair share of trouble with this skill/talent. I sit at home a lot now a days and got to thinking to my self that I am going to refine my skills at knife honing. I have always been able to painfully remove arm hair with the tools that I have had at hand, a coarse pocket stone and a old peace of leather. I came across some of your posts on this forum when searching google and started to read. The information that you have provided to me has helped me so much that I went out and got myself a smiths tri hone from lowes and have refined my shills to the point that now I can very easily take arm hair off with very little pressure on my arm and in one stroke all hair is gone! all this in one hour of work using some of the info you have shared with all of us. THANK YOU very much for sharing your talent.