Knights sword query?

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festerfromnzed

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Gday guys..i picked this original brass rubbing of a knight up at an antique shop that was closing down..He was Sir Robert De Septvams who died in 1306 of old age.He fought alongside Edward 1st against William Wallace..My questions are 1..what is this style of sword called??....2..Who makes a quality replica of this sword?.....with thanks...FES

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Wow, this is hard to say, as the sword is sheathed, however based on the date of death it would likely be an Oakeshott type XII (contemporary with the type often depicted in the Maciejowski Bible). It could also be a type XVI, though that would make it a very early example. Google "Oakeshott Sword Typeology" for more information on the various types of swords. As for suppliers, if you haven't done so, check out Albion. They're pricey but their products are absolutely first-rate; ditto for Arms & Armor (A&A), who will also take commissions if you wanted something custom made. KoA (Kult of Athena) carries Del Tin, which are considered mid-level production swords. Be prepared to pay extra for a scabbard (which will need to be custom made for your sword, should you decide to purchase one). Hope this helps!
 
I think the sword has a rain guard. The clam looking piece over the crossguard. When you slid it into the scabbard the rain guard would come down over it a bit to keep rain and dirt out. A type XII with a rain guard would be a spot on match I think. Or it could have a scabbard that extends up over the crossguard for the same function. hard to say.

Albion makes some good pieces that can take a beating, and are about as cheap as it gets when it comes to custom made swords. They are a very high quality manufacturer and put out lots of Oakenshott models. Their swords are not usually forged, but made with laser cutting and milling. Less authentic but totally flawless.
 
That's a rain flap on the scabbard, not a rain guard on the sword. As barrows mentioned, a rain guard is usually attached over the hilt, covering the cross; some are open flaps, others are closed and form a sort of tube around the blade (and mouth of the scabbard). The Cluny sword is a good example of the former type of rain guard. A rain flap is the triangular bit of leather which is part of the scabbard that extends up over the mouth of the scabbard and partially covers the hilt. I'll try to post pictures of both examples later. Festerfromnzed, google both terms (sword rain guard/sword scabbard rain flap) and you'll immediately see the difference between the two.:)
 
As promised - this is a rain guard on the famous sword housed in Musée de Cluny:

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and on the sword of Estorre Visconti (silver rain guard):

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Hammaborg has an interesting theory regarding the purpose of the rain guard:

[video=youtube;-8QBr4dTAR0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8QBr4dTAR0[/video]

And this is a rain flap on a scabbard (made by DBK Custom Swords and Scabbards). Note how closely this resembles the image of the sheathed sword in the brass:

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I REALLY want to make that scabbard, the only trick is to get a customer to commision it! :)
 
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