Knives on Airplanes

[BladeLugger]

So I'm flying to Cali tomorrow and I want to bring my EDC folder and maybe my GW. I put it in my checked luggage, is there anything I need to protect them from being confiscated?

thanks.

 

[randucci]

I take mine in my checked luggage all the time. When I go on vacation via Airplanes, I have a coupe of knives that work well, but If they are lost, It won't be a big loss. Now, coming back from Blade I was worried, I had a few nice blades I didn't want to loose, but had no problem. I have also brought back knives international in my checked luggage, fixed and folding knives (as long as they are not automatics) are legal to transport into the USA.

 

[grnamin]

So I'm flying to Cali tomorrow and I want to bring my EDC folder and maybe my GW. I put it in my checked luggage, is there anything I need to protect them from being confiscated?

thanks.

If they disappear from your checked-in luggage, that's not confiscation, that's theft!

 

[rt014]

I've had knives stolen from my checked bags before....now I only bring cheap ones on a flight in checked baggage.

 

[HeadKicker]

I am a Federal LE officer and always fly with a blade and pistol on the flight. On the occasions that I am flying for training and have to put overflow weapons into checked bags I ensure that it is a hard case with a lock. If your weapons (knives and/or guns) are removed from checked baggage, then they were stolen. Generally, you identify to the airline counter that you have a gun in a checked bag and they inspect it to ensure that it is unloaded. No such need for sending a blade.

 

[BladeLugger]

Thanks for the info gentlemen, I don't think I'm going to bring the GW anyway. Too precious to me.

HK - you can get on a plane w/ a gun and knife? I didn't think they allowed ANYONE that priviledge anymore.

 

[Hog Feet]

Honest law abiding citizens are supposed to be helpless on an airplane. This is the way the Federal government wants us.
If people thought they could take care of themselves they would know how little we really need the feds.
This is in no way meant as disrespect to those who do put their lives on the line. Federal officers are doing their jobs.
If law abiding citizens were allowed to be armed on planes 9/11 would have been very different.

P.S. what knives would you bring on a plane if you could?

 

[Guyon]

I agree with the responses about only carrying knives that you could bear losing. I usually take a CRKT or maybe a SAK (both inexpensive but both pretty well made) in checked luggage.

Lots of folks do just check them in their luggage. I've seen where others have used a cable lock and some sort of locking box INSIDE checked luggage. I'd imagine you'd have to tear a hole or two in the luggage to attach the cable lock to the luggage frame. However, if your bag is checked, this setup might get you in trouble with TSA.

 

[HeadKicker]

Thanks for the info gentlemen, I don't think I'm going to bring the GW anyway. Too precious to me.

HK - you can get on a plane w/ a gun and knife? I didn't think they allowed ANYONE that priviledge anymore.

Post 9-11 it is agency required to fly armed.

 

[HeadKicker]

Honest law abiding citizens are supposed to be helpless on an airplane. This is the way the Federal government wants us.
If people thought they could take care of themselves they would know how little we really need the feds.
This is in no way meant as disrespect to those who do put their lives on the line. Federal officers are doing their jobs.
If law abiding citizens were allowed to be armed on planes 9/11 would have been very different.

P.S. what knives would you bring on a plane if you could?

As a perspective of being one of the "feds", terrorists would never take a plane with a few box cutters if all of the passengers had baseball bats under their seats.

 

[HeadKicker]

I agree with the responses about only carrying knives that you could bear losing. I usually take a CRKT or maybe a SAK (both inexpensive but both pretty well made) in checked luggage.

Lots of folks do just check them in their luggage. I've seen where others have used a cable lock and some sort of locking box INSIDE checked luggage. I'd imagine you'd have to tear a hole or two in the luggage to attach the cable lock to the luggage frame. However, if your bag is checked, this setup might get you in trouble with TSA.

You may lock your luggage, simply escort it over to TSA screening and xray...allow them to search it and then relock it.

 

[J_Curd]

As a perspective of being one of the "feds", terrorists would never take a plane with a few box cutters if all of the passengers had baseball bats under their seats.

I still dont buy the box cutter thing. So you get a few cuts beating the guy to death...so what...I just cant see a couple people holding a plane full of people under their control with box cutters, even if they used hostages.

Again, if everyone was armed, a few armed people with bad intentions wouldnt make it that far...

 

[on_the_edge]

Honest law abiding citizens are supposed to be helpless on an airplane. This is the way the Federal government wants us.
If people thought they could take care of themselves they would know how little we really need the feds.
This is in no way meant as disrespect to those who do put their lives on the line. Federal officers are doing their jobs.
If law abiding citizens were allowed to be armed on planes 9/11 would have been very different.

P.S. what knives would you bring on a plane if you could?

Not to hijack this thread, but I felt like this required a response. Sorry folks.

Honest law abiding citizens are supposed to be helpless on an airplane. This is the way the Federal government wants us.

Actually, they are not supposed to be helpless; they are supposed to stay out of the way so that law enforcement can address dangerous situations that require immediate action with the least risk to the public. In the absence of law enforcement, intervention by law abiding citizens MAY be better than nothing at all, but that will certainly NOT be the case in all situations. You may not know this, but even armed law enforcement on board aircraft (including those from that agency empowered to investigate crimes aboard an aircraft -- the FBI) are told to NOT intervene in a situation unless specifically requested by the crew, or unless it is obviously something the crew cannot handle, such as a hijack.

If people thought they could take care of themselves they would know how little we really need the feds.

The fact is that few people can take care of themselves in a situation like a airline hijacking, never mind trying to address the situation, and addressing it in such a way that is in concert with the way that everyone else is trying to address it. I would submit that even armed law enforcement who are trained in such matters over and over again may be ill prepared to deal with the situation. If the officer is out of shape, a poor shot (God forbid when it comes to that), overly tired, etc., then a situation may be way beyond what that officer is capable of dealing with. I don't think it is too far a reach to anticipate that your average citizen will likely be overwhelmed even more readily.

If law abiding citizens were allowed to be armed on planes 9/11 would have been very different.

Armed with what? Everyone knows that hindsight is 20/20. Knives versus boxcutters? Yes, boxcutters will probably lose IF the knives are in the right hands. But if law abiding citizens were allowed to carry firearms on an airplane, then when it did hit the fan and there is law enforcement onboard, then chances are that some do-gooder is going to be hurt or worse. How is the officer to know that the guy in 29A reaching for that gun is or is not a hijacker??? Is 29A trained in the safe retention of a firearm, or it's use onboard a flying tube at 32,000 feet, or is 29A even aware enough and strong enough to hold on to that gun even if he is trained? Does 29A have good judgment? I could go on, but I venture to say that I have probably lost most readers' interest already.

When law enforcement gets on any plane armed, they all know each other. They have met and know where they each are sitting. They have all undergone training, most on an ongoing basis. And they all know what their jobs are and when to act. Only when all of these pieces are in play does law enforcement fly armed on aircraft. Start throwing in a bunch of good-meaning, but ill-informed and possibly ill-trained citizens and I think I'll opt for the "walking" option.

 

[Hog Feet]

"This is the Captain speaking... We are being hijacked (like this thread), the government will protect you, there is nothing for you to do here!
The terrorist just want to land in Iran and use us to negotiate the release of some of their political prisoners (terrorists)."

No situation is perfect, and hindsight is 20/20, but the wait for the cavalry attitude has gotten lots of people killed.

To keep this post a little on topic: I transport knives in locked pelican cases and I wait for TSA to x-ray the bags after telling them why I am waiting.

I do not see anything wrong with being able to carry a SAK or a small fixed blade on a plane (we used to be allowed).

Before 9/11 I was stopped witha cigar cutter. The security guy asked me what it was, as he was quickly opening and closing it. I told him it was a cigar cutter. He anxiously asked me if it was a weapon. I told him it is a weapon if you are a cigar . He asked if you could cut off a finger with it. I took it out of his hands and said he shouldn't play with it, and only an idiot would put his fingers inside (he was about to do just that). He thanked me and sent me on my way.

Times have changed! And I sure feel much safer without swiss army knife scissors, air marshalls on a few % of US flights, and body cavity searches of grandma.

I wouldn't strap on a Battle Mistress for a flight, but in the good old US of A the government should have no right to stop me. Private companies have a right to stop me, and I have a right to use another company.

Smoke em if ya gottem!... nevermind, you can't do that either.

P.S. I have since quit smoking cigars and now spend my cigar money on Busse knives

 

[G19G26]

HogFeet, you "quite" cigars? How about quit cigars? What are you a Commie? Get a good stogie in that face mister!! You can have your cigar and Busse too

 

[KnifeAddictAK]

HogFeet, you "quite" cigars? How about quit cigars? What are you a Commie? Get a good stogie in that face mister!! You can have your cigar and Busse too

Nothing wrong with E series cigars

 

[Hog Feet]

I had to quit smoking cigars because Cuban Cigars are the best and I was getting tired of the Cuban coast guard catching me on my oildrum homemade raft and then sending me back to Florida. Cuba does not have a Wet Foot/ Dry Foot policy like we do

 

[KnifeAddictAK]

But there are certain cigars out there that are cuban grown tobacco but not rolled by cubans. Example: The tobacco was seized and keep fresh for 40+ years and finally was bid/bought by a company who then rolled them and sold them. They aren't too expensive and are pretty good.

 

[Hog Feet]

But there are certain cigars out there that are cuban grown tobacco but not rolled by cubans. Example: The tobacco was seized and keep fresh for 40+ years and finally was bid/bought by a company who then rolled them and sold them. They aren't too expensive and are pretty good.

I have had them (Pinar, and Magus). Very good pre embargo cuban tobac!

I stopped smoking cigars because I am having my first baby in a few weeks. Maybe when he is a teenager and hates me I will start smoking again. For now "I am doing it for the children"

Thanks for the encouragment, understanding and support in my quest to stay smoke free

Mark Twain said "Quiting smoking is easy... I do it every day."

I wonder what kind of Busse Mark Twain would have carried? I think he whould have carried a nice shiny Bad Warden.

 

[RedEdge77]

I have had them (Pinar, and Magus). Very good pre embargo cuban tobac!

I stopped smoking cigars because I am having my first baby in a few weeks. Maybe when he is a teenager and hates me I will start smoking again. For now "I am doing it for the children"

Thanks for the encouragment, understanding and support in my quest to stay smoke free

Mark Twain said "Quiting smoking is easy... I do it every day."

I wonder what kind of Busse Mark Twain would have carried? I think he whould have carried a nice shiny Bad Warden.

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