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who here would like to see a crk kukri and/or bolo


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after the take our guns away they're comin after our knives
 
Aaaaarrgggghhhh!!!!!!! You can't do that to people!!!!! Some of us have sensetive hearts you know!!!!! I came in to check what was here, see "Kukri" and my Imagination almost exploded!!!!!

But seriously, i'd love to see a kukri and a bolo, and anything else Chris makes
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What about a Sebenza megafolder? Just a thought.....

Oh, and Welcome to the forums
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James

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The beast we are, lest the beast we become.

[This message has been edited by James Healy (edited 07-26-2000).]
 
I just cannot see CRK coming out with a Khukri, although if they did, I'm sure it would be one hellacious blade
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I'd love to see a CRK megafolder entry too James ! That would be awesome...

AL
 
I can't see either of these happening. CRK's are difficult to break or damage in any real way. The compromises of steel, hardness, size and design are spot on. A huge part of CR reputation is that they don't break.

However, I don't know of anyone yet who could make a long bolo or kukri that wouldn't take damage. Their weight and the forces they produced are beyound the best metalugy out there; unless you keep them soft. Mostly these type blades are relatively inexpensive as you can't then complain if they do take some damage. Al Mar tried it with the pathfinder, but they failed a little too often. Blackjack Marauder II worked but was not that expensive and not that hard either. Cold Steel's Kukri's do take a hammering and any damage done can be rectified, but they are not that much either. Can anyone think of an expensive, $300 plus, semi production one, or even custom one, that can take the punishment (over 9 inches). I would be interested.

So why should CR chance it. Some non NIB collector will beat the hell out of one at whatever price they come out -- and damage it. Then blaze a negative result all over the place.

I'll second the challenge to Busse, Strider, Chris Reeve or anyone else to make a "hard wood" machete/cleaver rhat is not built like a steel """" house.
 
GREENJACKET:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Can anyone think of an expensive, $300 plus, semi production one, or even custom one, that can take the punishment (over 9 inches). I would be interested.</font>

The Machax from Camillus has a 9.5" blade and is khukuri/bolo influenced. NIB, the blade is very resistant to damage. Even after I thinned out the edge (14-16 degrees) it can still chop hardwoods for extended periods of time (1000 chops) as well as thick seasoned bone, with little visible damage (sub .2 mm denting). The Brute from Camillus is similar sized and more of a bolo-esque shape.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I'll second the challenge to Busse, Strider, Chris Reeve or anyone else to make a "hard wood" machete/cleaver rhat is not built like a steel """" house.</font>

The new Bush Hog from Camillus is supposed to be able to chop hardwoods, I asked about it in the Camillus forum. It has a blade of about 14" I think. Strider makes a large chopper with a light bolo-khukuri influence, the PAB. Busse also makes a Bolo.

There are also the traditional forged khukuris from HI of course, they have the full HI warrenty and are made for serious use. They however are fairly thick and heavy much more so than the other few blades I mentioned.

-Cliff
 
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Thank you Cliff for bring to my attention some hard wood choppers. Its the 10 inch plus type that I was really going for. I have to be a bit careful because I'm stuck in Britain and do not have the access to blade shows that you enjoy over the water. I've never had much luck buying blind and then again need the time to give a blade a real going over.
My fishing for a solution would probably be better responded to on the general discussion forum, but then I would probably get a hatchet answer (which frankly is the answer). The HI kukri's could probably do it, though I have no first hand experience of them other than from the forum, but one has to get ones head around the way to use a kukri well. They are powerful but do take some time to get used to.

Do you have any thoughts on high reputation companies taking a risk with long thin chopping blades?

 
There are certainly no plans for us to make anything like a kukri or bolo, nor does it seem something that is likely to come in the future. However, never say never!

Anne
 
GREENJACKET:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Do you have any thoughts on high reputation companies taking a risk with long thin chopping blades?</font>

There are a several. Livesay makes machetes that are decently thin (3/16") flat ground and while the standard fare is 10" blade (RCM), he has made them longer on custom order. Ross Aki makes parangs out of 1/8" ATS-34 that are meant for heavier work than his standard 1/16" light use machete. Jerry Hossom has recently ground a few machetes out of slight 3V stock (no primary bevel, just an edge grind).

However, I used one of Livesays 10" RCM and it bent up on hardwoods. I discussed how far you could push on Aki's parang with the maker and after going into detail about me experience with several other machetes the discussion ended. In regards to Hossoms, 3V is a fine steel and that profile is one of the strongest (full spine thickness at back of edge), however it is also the worst from a cutting performance point of view.

Personally I would bet on the Bush Hog from Camillus as a heavy duty machete that is still lighter than a traditional parang. I have used a Machax and it has held up well even after I thinned out the bevel so I am not concerned about edge damage. However the primary grind on the Bush Hog will be much thinner so it may deform - that is my only concern. I will most likely order one when they start to ship.

In regards to custom makers, if you have to money I would drop Phil Wilson an email and see if he has any interest in grinding you a decent sized blade. He normally works in smaller fare, but he has done larger blades before and he has an excellent understanding of the forces they must endure and what this means in terms of the necessary geometry and how this is influenced by the abilities of the steel.

-Cliff

 
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