Kydex for Tweeners - the search is on!

winterveil

winterveil

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Hey Beckerheads, I'm in the market for some new pants for a few of my tweeners. I'm kind of digging the idea of carrying them cross-draw at a 45 degree cant a la Azwelke, but haven't had any experience with that kind of carry in general. Anyone tried this with the tweeners (with or without Az's product)? Anyone tried this with Az's 45 degree loop (with or without a Becker)?

My concern would be that the OAL may be large enough to impede movement somewhat when bending or squatting down.

I'd be grateful for your thoughts, opinions, and suggestions for other carry styles or pants!

Thanks!
 
710 did a fantastic job with my 16 cross draw. No problems with wear at all.





this view shows the plate on the back which allows one to adjust the cant to any other angle.

 
I've got an Azwelke sheath for a BK16 (I still need to take/post pics). The fit, retention, and release are all superb. It was set up for an Esee molle back, which I bought....and forgot about. Guess I should set it up, and get the pictures done.
I don't have any experience with the piece you're talking about, but I've been looking at his drop attachment.
 
Personally I think a tweener at 45° would be a wee bit uncomfortable.
DJ Urbanovski from American Kami has a method for carrying a larger style of knife inside the waistband at 12 o'clock shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12QCfId1QfY
It works very well (towards the end of the video).
 
What is the advantage of the 45° degree angle instead of just perfectly horizontal? I've only considered straight cross draw, but now I'm curious about other options!
 
Silver Needle said:
What is the advantage of the 45° degree angle instead of just perfectly horizontal?
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The way I see it, a 45° cant gives you the cross-draw capability while taking up a bit less room on your belt.

Also, you can wear one on each hip and act like a pirate. :p

Thanks for the feedback so far guys! I'm liking the tek-lock option - makes a lot of sense to have the ability to change the carry angle in case 45 doesn't work out or it makes more sense to strap it to a pack or something.
 
there is a guy on ebay selling keydex sheaths for bk16s for $25 (I think). and an extra $20 if you want a fire steel loop.
 
I forgot to include; I wear it at the 10/11 o'clock, so the handle end is over the 12 o'clock position (or damn near it). I have never had an issue with discomfort. With the position of the Tec-Lok centered on the sheath, it keeps the bottom/point of the sheath from interfering with the upper part of the leg while sitting. I can't recall having to adjust it/move it off the leg due to discomfort.

For a larger knife, like say the BK7, I would not wear it cross draw, or if I did, I'd move the sheath to the 9 o'clock position.
 
Thanks for the tip TD! I'll have to try that position when I get the sheathes.

Yeah, I agree with you on the 7; wouldn't do cross draw - bit too large to be comfortable IMO. My 7 is either going to get a scout-style or dangler... Not sure which yet
 
winterveil said:
Thanks for the tip TD! I'll have to try that position when I get the sheathes.

Yeah, I agree with you on the 7; wouldn't do cross draw - bit too large to be comfortable IMO. My 7 is either going to get a scout-style or dangler... Not sure which yet
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I have a 7 but I have not gotten any new pants for it. If I do, it will be a dangler, or perhaps a Baldric carry style rig. I'm not sure. I have a 9 and had 710 rig me up a kydex leather dangler for it. As you can probably tell, the sheath is massive. I call it my "canoe paddle." My wife also braided me some paracord to use as a Baldric carry system I have used on occasion. Check it out:



But, honestly, I rarely wear the dangler. I just like it in case I want to wear it. Most of the time my 9 rides here:



And the paracord braid then becomes a "dummy cord."
 
Tdhurl1103 said:
710 did a fantastic job with my 16 cross draw. No problems with wear at all.





this view shows the plate on the back which allows one to adjust the cant to any other angle.

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Tom,

Your 710 cross-draw sheath makes me sick - not because I don't like it, it's fantastic, it's because I went to 710 to get the exact same set-up for my BK 15 and got something completely different. Your's is compact, secure and solves all of the issues presented to them when I ordered mine. What I got was some bracket affair attached to the sheath that is merely folded Kydex that does not lend rigidity or support as well as the much better design that you got. Your's is close to the body and secure - mine is detached and far less secure. To be honest - it's one of my least favorite Kydex sheaths. BTW, yours is super in case I failed to mention that - hard to belive that we got them from the same company for almost the same knife.:eek::(

What did you do different than me to get such a great set-up while I got something far less effective??? :confused::grumpy:
 
Sorry for the late response. I've been busy elsewhere and forgot to come back.

I'm not sure if I did anything "correctly" in my requests. I just told JD I wanted a cross-draw pancake sheath for the 16 with this type of angled end \_/ and a tek-loc. JD came up with the plate and mounting angle. So, basically, its a standard sheath with the plate and tek-lok.

OH, one last thing about how I wear this knife. I DO NOT use a really stiff belt. What I mean by stiff is tactical type belt akin to a SPEC OPS belt. I use just a standard 1 1/2" leather belt that has very little rigidity. This allows the sheath to move around a bit (not back and forth along the belt but toward and away from the body) if that makes any sense. A little bit of movement goes a long way in comfort. Here are some shots of the knife on the belt.

The first pic is the sheath as it is designed to ride. Notice I have it at the 10 o'clock in this pic. That position on the belt is due to there being a belt loop which prevents me wearing it at the 11. Notice also that the end of the sheath sticks out a bit, but its not bad at all.



This is a pic of the sheath at about a 30 degree angle, which is slightly more comfortable when sitting. I did not adjust the angle of the tek-lok! I am able to manipulate the angle due to the belt being 1 1/2" instead of two (I have the tek-lok setup to accommodate a two inch belt) so there is some space to play with there.



This shows how much of the sheath "hangs" off my side because I have it at the 10 o'clock. If it were at the 11 the sheath would not stick out very much/if at all.



For these photos, it is the first time wearing the knife with these pants and don't like the knife at the 10. From now on I'll wear the knife at the 11 on the other side of the loop. Also, please excuse the fatness. I'm still trying to shed the holiday weight. :D
 
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Finally had a chance to check out the vid of the Colubris carry. I like this carry method a lot. Thanks Derek.
 
Tdhurl1103,

Wow, you and I went to JD with the same request with much different results. The biggest difference I see between your set-up and mine is that you have a pancake and I have a taco. A taco accommodates the plate the holds the Tek-Lok and is secured to both sides of the pancake sheath. I was never advised that I should go with a pancake or that a taco would not accomplish my goal. If I only knew then what I knew now I would have started out with a pancake but I'm already in too deep with what I've got and, to be fair, JD is going to try to come up with something to hopefully make it better. Irrespective of how mine eventually turns out - yours is the shitznitz!:D:thumbup:

In regards to the inquiries about why a 45-degree in lieu of simply horizontal, some of us are bestowed (besaddled?) with cell phones, multi-tools and what not on our belts and if you want to not lean against such bumpy things when in a truck/car/Jeep, then real estate on the forward quarters of one's belt becomes prime/valuable space. The 15 is short enough (especially at a 45-degree angle) where it's not going to dig into a seat and push your belt (and pants) up. So, in short sum, a 45-degree cant takes up less valuable belt space while keeping the tip high enough to not severely conflict vehicle seats. If I spent most of my time (I wish) on a horse, ATV or dirt bike, then, of course, vertical carry would be preferred.
 
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