La Griffe (and fixed blade claws) in CA

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Azraell

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Reference: http://www.justia.com/criminal/docs/calcrim/2500/2501.html

The definiton of a dirk or dagger is pretty vague in California. Indeed, I've felt essentially any fixed blade no matter the size that is not visible is considered a dirk/dagger, making it illegal in the state.

However, CA's law states that it is ready to use as a stabbing implement. I realize that the recurve on most claws can still somewhat stab; however is it still going to be called out as a dirk/dagger?

Fixed blade laws here are confusing. I want to assume all concealed fixed blades are illegal, but I prefer dedicated fixed bladed knives over dedicated folders for stability and reliability. I have SAKs for general use.
 
cotdt said:
Doesn't dagger refer to fixed blades sharpened on both sides?
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absolutely not per california law.

there is nothing in the penal code that references the number of edges, sharpened or otherwise, present on any knife.

the lagriffe would qualify either as a concealed dirk/dagger (most likely), or as a metal knuckle (unlikely, but still possible).

the language "ready use as a stabbing weapon" is what i find particularly ambiguous. the implication is it must be on your person and easily accessible.

belts, neck, pockets, and ankles (boots) are almost certainly going to fall in to the category as easily accessible. hypthetically, if the knife were strapped to your leg, and you were wearing full length pants, you would have satisfied the "concealed dirk/dagger" language, but not the "readily accessible" language. both elements must be met for a violation to exist.

carried in a backpack, while wearing the backpack with both straps would likely not constitute "readily accessible". however, a woman's purse slung over a shoulder probably would.

all that said, i would not recommend being a test case in any of the above scenarios.
 
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