Laguiole Steel

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I'm asking my wife for a NICE (around $100) folder for Christmas. Frontrunner was a Boker stag-handled stockman with 440C blades. That was until she forced me to go to some French shop in Long Island's north fork to get some herbs, at which point I was introduced to the Laguiole. Absolutely beautiful knives. The question is, is the steel in these knives worth a darn? Most seem to have Sandvik 12C27 blades, which I understand to be a mediocre steel. Some have a steel labeled as "T12". I have no idea what this is...is this some kind of high speed steel between T1 and T15, in which case it kicks you-know-what, or is it just ehh?
 
The steel usualy is a little soft the reasoning is who hard does a blade need to be to cut bread and cheese, I would think that it is a quality steel to match the other qualitys of the knife.
 
Bread and Cheese? That's no fun.

Oh, the other knife is a Queen Cutlery whittler w/ birdseye maple handle. NICE! MMMM, D2!
 
It actually is a very good steel. Takes a keen edge and holds for a good amount of time. Good luck getting it!
 
I happen to own a Forge de Laguiole knife with T12 bladesteel.
One with a blonde horn handle inlay, polished brass bolsters and a spike.

It came in a nice black leather pouch together with a small grooved sharpening rod, and the strange thing is, when i try to use that on the knife, the blade cuts pieces from the metal rod, and this doesn't seem to harm the blade in any way.
No blunting or nicks, as strange as it sounds.

Ofcourse the metal in the small sharpening steel is probably too soft to be used as such, but that the blade held up fine is good in my book.

I now use a triangular stick from a Spyderco sharpmaker to touch up that T12 blade, and this works fine.
It sharpens up to a crisp and shaving edge without problems.

One thing to remember when you want one of these, they are slipjoints with a very strong backspring.
The closing especially has to be done with great care to protect your fingers as well as the point area from slamming shut, best is to guide the blade slowly to it's closed position.
 
Stainless Moras are 12c27. I don't think you'll find many complaints about them. These days even 440c looks like a mediorce steel.
 
Some Laguiole have non-stainless steel blades, and these are considered as the "real" ones.
Otherwise, you will often find 12c27.
12c27 is a very reliable steel - and it's easy to sharpen. Not as hard as 440C or a more technological steel, of course... But hard enough for an EDC-use.
Be careful you buy a real "made in France" Laguiole. There are many fakes made in Asia, that may disappoint you.
 
I've made a couple of knives out of 12c27 and the stuf works like mild steel in its annealed state, but when hardened holds a pretty good edge.
 
From the Sandvik web site:
12C27
C 0.6
Cr 13.5

Sandvik recommends it for
"Knives, scissors, skate blades"
 
I happen to own a Forge de Laguiole knife with T12 bladesteel.
One with a blonde horn handle inlay, polished brass bolsters and a spike.

It came in a nice black leather pouch together with a small grooved sharpening rod, and the strange thing is, when i try to use that on the knife, the blade cuts pieces from the metal rod, and this doesn't seem to harm the blade in any way.
No blunting or nicks, as strange as it sounds.

Ofcourse the metal in the small sharpening steel is probably too soft to be used as such, but that the blade held up fine is good in my book.

I now use a triangular stick from a Spyderco sharpmaker to touch up that T12 blade, and this works fine.
It sharpens up to a crisp and shaving edge without problems.

One thing to remember when you want one of these, they are slipjoints with a very strong backspring.
The closing especially has to be done with great care to protect your fingers as well as the point area from slamming shut, best is to guide the blade slowly to it's closed position.

I hold the handle flat in my right palm with my fingers on the thin sides of the handle, and then use the flat of my palm to push on the spine of the knife halfway, then when all that risky business is over i just slowly let it into the knife handle. They are nice knives but i hate how some of them the blade is WAY off center. I like mine.
 
I hold the handle flat in my right palm with my fingers on the thin sides of the handle, and then use the flat of my palm to push on the spine of the knife halfway, then when all that risky business is over i just slowly let it into the knife handle. They are nice knives but i hate how some of them the blade is WAY off center. I like mine.

I do it exactly like you, and this works indeed fine.

The blade being off-center quite often is due to the drop-forging process that Forge De Laguiole and others use.
Although mine is quite straight, many of these blades are left a little warped from that procedure.
More or less a hit or miss principle i think, and it doesn't seem to hamper it's functionality.

I would like Forge de Laguiole, which i consider the best of the Laguioles, to incorporate a lock as well as a kick in their knives.
That would make them even better.
Spyderco used to have the Ramco-Laguiole folder in it's line-up some time ago, that was imo without a doubt the best version of the classic Laguiole model.

I also found out that, although i have a large version, they are quite good to use in restaurants where steaknives are often unworthy of that name.
Possibly because of the sleek, traditional appearance they are not seen as weapons by restaurant guests and owners.
Tip: always cut your meat in a slanted way on porcelain plates, as this will preserve the edge much longer.
 
Some Laguiole have non-stainless steel blades, and these are considered as the "real" ones.
Otherwise, you will often find 12c27.
12c27 is a very reliable steel - and it's easy to sharpen. Not as hard as 440C or a more technological steel, of course... But hard enough for an EDC-use.
Be careful you buy a real "made in France" Laguiole. There are many fakes made in Asia, that may disappoint you.

how do you spot a fake? i think i may have one.
 
I bought a cheapo Laguiole at a rest stop on the Autorroute in France. it is stamped "Laguiole L'Eclair" on one side of the ricasso and "440 stainless steel" on the other. Not a bad little knfe for the price, but I would like to have one of the high end handmade carbon ones.
 
I have had several different brands/types of Laguioles, the best one I have ever had is my Fontenille Pataud by Gilles. It is a lock back. Man, that knife is fantastic!
 
I carry a Laguiole made by Gilles of Thiers, and it is a real good knife. This was my first 12c27 blade, and it does just fine. I like it better than 440c, I think that these knives are built better than Bokers.
 
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