Large BG-42 Reg.. Pictures ADDED!!

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Incahiker

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Well, I just got it in the mail. It is a large regular sebenza with BG-42 steel. It was made in 2001. I really love the blade profile. It does have a thicker tip and I like the little extra belly it has on it. It looks meaner then the classic or 21 profile. I am going to polish the BG-42 tonight to see how sharp i can get it.

I am still trying to decide whether or not I like the ergonomics of the regular as much as the classic. Sometimes I can feel those little "ribs" in the front stick in my finger, but its not a bother, but they are there. I find that I have more possibilities in gripping the regular profile. With the classic and 21 the hand locks into the cut out every time, but I have no problem with either of them. I guess they are both great but different.

I also received a XM-18 3.5" today. That thing is a beast. I still am trying to decide whether I like it or not ( I like it, and like it a lot, but I am comparing it to the sebenza :D). The small sebenza has a cutting edge almost as long as the 3.5 hinderer. But.... the XM-18 is like a tank. The hinderer also fits in the hand very good and has a useable choil. Decisions, decisions....

Here are the PICS....

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Here is a Hinderer XM-18 3.5" for comparison. This is one hell of a strong folder.. but truth be told I don't personally think it is that much tougher then the Sebenza (at least that's the way it feels in my hands). I still think the sebenza is the all around perfect knife. The XM feels great in the hand and I love the flipper. The knife does take up a hell of a lot of pocket space. So much that I had to remove it to get to my wallet at the store. The Sebenza... I don't even know it's there and I can get anything from my pocket. You can see this with the picture I put up of them both in the closed position (large classic and the XM.)
Also... I love the TI side of the XM.. but the scale side needs to be improved.. the G-10 just looks like plastic and makes the knife look like one of my sons toy knives.. definitely not what I am looking for in a $600 knife. I will need to make my own scale.. most of them are all bland.

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And here are more pictures for the hell of it... I know you guys like pics ;).

Some of the small sebenza 21 with the polished thumbstud (I love it much more then the blue stud..) and one of my dog cause she was out there with me catching bees and eating them (yes.. she bites them in half then eats them. :confused:), and cause she is an awesome dog. Can anyone see the chow in her? She is part beagle and chow... odd..

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Good snag. I don't (like the ergos of the regular as well), but my small regular LH BG-42, which now sports dual lugs, is not going anywhere soon. :D I lovvvve that blade. :thumbup:

Incahiker said:
Well, I just got it in the mail. It is a large regular sebenza with BG-42 steel. It was made in 2001. I really love the blade profile. It does have a thicker tip and I like the little extra belly it has on it. It looks meaner then the classic or 21 profile. I am going to polish the BG-42 tonight to see how sharp i can get it.

I am still trying to decide whether or not I like the ergonomics of the regular as much as the classic. Sometimes I can feel those little "ribs" in the front stick in my finger, but its not a bother, but they are there. I find that I have more possibilities in gripping the knife, with the classic and 21 the hand locks into the cut out every time, but I have no problem with either of them. I guess they are both great but different.

I also received a XM-18 3.5" today. That thing is a beast. I still am trying to decide whether I like it or not. The small sebenza has a cutting edge almost as long as the 3.5 hinderer. But.... the XM-18 is like a tank. The hinderer also fits in the hand very good and has a useable choil. Decisions, decisions....

Yes I know pics or it didn't happen. I am at work right now so I will get the pics when I get home.
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I just bought my first BG42 too but it is a Classic not a regular.
I had a 3.5 XM too and sold it. It was a little too big to carry but still liked the knife. I ended up buying a 3" version in its place after selling the 3.5. I never ever carry the 3" XM either because I can't keep my Sebenzas out of my pocket.
 
BBQ BOY said:
I just bought my first BG42 too but it is a Classic not a regular.
I had a 3.5 XM too and sold it. It was a little too big to carry but still liked the knife. I ended up buying a 3" version in its place after selling the 3.5. I never ever carry the 3" XM either because I can't keep my Sebenzas out of my pocket.
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My Dream sebenza is THIS one... but I was 2 months too late because I didn't get into CRK knives until october :(. It was a large desert Ironwood classic sebenza with a BG-42 blade. Man, I can't believe I missed that knife.... I think that would be my ultimate knife... dream knife that so many speak of.
 
If you're like most around here, you'll find that you prefer the ergos on the Classic/21 and the regular blade profile. That seems to the the trend I've noticed.

Great score btw. Shoot us some pictures when you can :D
 
Congrats on a fine knife! Carry each for two weeks straight and you will keep both! Both are great knives and both will serve their purpose!
 
regulars are great, my small regular in S30V is one of my favorite knives! use yours in good health :thumbup:
 
Incahiker said:
My Dream sebenza is THIS one... but I was 2 months too late because I didn't get into CRK knives until october :(. It was a large desert Ironwood classic sebenza with a BG-42 blade. Man, I can't believe I missed that knife.... I think that would be my ultimate knife... dream knife that so many speak of.
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I'd almost bet $100 that was NOT a BG-42 blade ;)
 
So-Lo said:
I'd almost bet $100 that was NOT a BG-42 blade ;)
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I'll take that bet ;)

Actually, I remember tracking that seb when it sold and discussing with the seller how to identify the blade steel. I never examined the knife personally, but if was described correctly back then - it's BG42 and quite rare to find in a classic.
 
DallasSTB said:
- it's BG42 and quite rare to find in a classic.
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Glad I said "almost" :D


Never hear of many classics with BG-42, the date on the handle makes it more believable... But without the card, it sounded a little wrong. But BG-42 it is, glad I didn't say I "would" bet $100 :D
 
Too late for right now, and I don't have a light box or the proper flash to take one at night. I will get out tomorrow morning and take those pics. It's not me, its the Canon 10D and the fixed 50mm 1.8 lens. Anyone can be a pro with that combo... lol. I used to be into photography when I was younger... loved it. Now I am getting back into it.

And... man this XM-18 is a pretty damned awesome knife. I still think that the sebenza is the best all around knife.. (size, ergonomics, pocket fit, etc..) but this hinderer is just an incredible beast of a knife. I love the ergonomics on the knife and the fit in finish is very good. Does not look as classy as a sebenza though, not even close.
 
I here ya', brother. I've been checking out the vid reviews on the Hinderers, and they are definitely on my short list.

As far as cameras go, you have a nice set-up there! I use a Canon Rebel XT (EOS 350D) with a Tamron XR DiII 18-200mm Macro lens. It's an older set-up, but I just can't justify buying new camera gear when there are so many blades to buy!

Can't wait to see your pix. . . . a couple of side-by-sides would be cool!
 
Congrats on your new knives.:thumbup: My Classic is from Mar 01 and is BG-42.

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Very nice knife with the carbon fiber!!

So... how do you guys like the BG-42 compared to the S30V??
 
Incahiker said:
Very nice knife with the carbon fiber!!

So... how do you guys like the BG-42 compared to the S30V??
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Now there's a can of worms that just popped open! Before a dog-pile of opinions stacks up, I'll just say that CR switched steels for two major reasons - consistency of the material and ease of workability/sharpening. Lots of people prefer the BG42 because it was taken to a higher hardness than the current S30V (60-61RC vs 58-59RC), and will therefore hold a fine edge a bit longer. S30V is generally regarded as easier to sharpen, and while perhaps not holding a "razor" edge as long as BG42, holds a good working edge longer due to the consistency of the material (mainly a result of the advanced particle metallurgy used). CR tested both materials extensively in house before making the switch, and they stand adamantly behind the steel.

Remember of course that most current "super steels" now use this method of manufacture, so CR and Crucible were quite the pioneers 10 years ago!

It's my inexpert opinion that any of the steels CR has used (ATS-34, BG-42, and S30V) will splendidly serve the vast majority of users out there - myself included. YMMV of course.
 
DallasSTB said:
Now there's a can of worms that just popped open! Before a dog-pile of opinions stacks up, I'll just say that CR switched steels for two major reasons - consistency of the material and ease of workability/sharpening. Lots of people prefer the BG42 because it was taken to a higher hardness than the current S30V (60-61RC vs 58-59RC), and will therefore hold a fine edge a bit longer. S30V is generally regarded as easier to sharpen, and while perhaps not holding a "razor" edge as long as BG42, holds a good working edge longer due to the consistency of the material (mainly a result of the advanced particle metallurgy used). CR tested both materials extensively in house before making the switch, and they stand adamantly behind the steel.

Remember of course that most current "super steels" now use this method of manufacture, so CR and Crucible were quite the pioneers 10 years ago!

It's my inexpert opinion that any of the steels CR has used (ATS-34, BG-42, and S30V) will splendidly serve the vast majority of users out there - myself included. YMMV of course.
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Thanks for the reply.. sorry I haven't posted pics up today but I have been busy using my knives ;). I sharpened both up last night to the same sharpness and was using them for cutting up a bunch of cardboard today for the recycling center and to do some wood processing. To me they are the same. Both seem to lose their sharpess at the same rate. I did find that the BG-42 was able to take a mirror polish quicker, but they were both a little stubborn (read took longer) to put an extreme edge on them compared to CPM-154 or Hinderers steel, 20V I think.. I don't think anyone is going to be missing anything from one steel to another. I promise I will get the pics on here soon.... lol.
 
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Fair, accurate and thorough! :D I do have to say that I really like my BG-42 regular, even if it's not totally "better." :thumbup:

DallasSTB said:
Now there's a can of worms that just popped open! Before a dog-pile of opinions stacks up, I'll just say that CR switched steels for two major reasons - consistency of the material and ease of workability/sharpening. Lots of people prefer the BG42 because it was taken to a higher hardness than the current S30V (60-61RC vs 58-59RC), and will therefore hold a fine edge a bit longer. S30V is generally regarded as easier to sharpen, and while perhaps not holding a "razor" edge as long as BG42, holds a good working edge longer due to the consistency of the material (mainly a result of the advanced particle metallurgy used). CR tested both materials extensively in house before making the switch, and they stand adamantly behind the steel.

Remember of course that most current "super steels" now use this method of manufacture, so CR and Crucible were quite the pioneers 10 years ago!

It's my inexpert opinion that any of the steels CR has used (ATS-34, BG-42, and S30V) will splendidly serve the vast majority of users out there - myself included. YMMV of course.
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