Large Stockman that Doesn’t Have Really Bright Blade Steel…Who Makes Them?

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Hey all.

I really like CASE folders. I only have a few now but want to pick up others. I have a LARGE or JUMBO as some call them, STOCKMAN and it’s a beautiful and functional knife. It has the blades made of the CASE stainless, which are polished really shiny. I would like to find another Jumbo Stockman, but I want this one to have blades that aren’t so shiny. You know, the way pocket knives used to look back in the day. I’d like to add it to my others.

Naturally I’d love to have a CASE Stockman like this, but older CASE knives get really expensive, really quick. So, I guess I need to start looking at other brands. The problem is that I don’t know which brands to start looking for.

I’ve done a tiny bit of looking on EBay but didn’t find anything too interesting. I did find some large Stockmen knives that looked decent, but they are made in China. The brand is ROUGH RYDER I think and new knives are less than $20! I might get one just to see how they look and feel. Prolly use it as a truck knife to keep in the center console.

I don’t care what the handle is made from. I am most interested in the steel and it looking great like I remember the knives my Dad and Papa used to carry.

Any suggestions on what makers I should search for? If I wanted a CASE, about how long ago did they use the steel I am looking for in their blades?

Any help you can offer would be appreciated. Thank you for your time and help.

BD
 
Nalapombu said:
Hey all.

I really like CASE folders. I only have a few now but want to pick up others. I have a LARGE or JUMBO as some call them, STOCKMAN and it’s a beautiful and functional knife. It has the blades made of the CASE stainless, which are polished really shiny. I would like to find another Jumbo Stockman, but I want this one to have blades that aren’t so shiny. You know, the way pocket knives used to look back in the day. I’d like to add it to my others.

Naturally I’d love to have a CASE Stockman like this, but older CASE knives get really expensive, really quick. So, I guess I need to start looking at other brands. The problem is that I don’t know which brands to start looking for.

I’ve done a tiny bit of looking on EBay but didn’t find anything too interesting. I did find some large Stockmen knives that looked decent, but they are made in China. The brand is ROUGH RYDER I think and new knives are less than $20! I might get one just to see how they look and feel. Prolly use it as a truck knife to keep in the center console.

I don’t care what the handle is made from. I am most interested in the steel and it looking great like I remember the knives my Dad and Papa used to carry.

Any suggestions on what makers I should search for? If I wanted a CASE, about how long ago did they use the steel I am looking for in their blades?

Any help you can offer would be appreciated. Thank you for your time and help.

BD
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Something like this is what you're looking for. A large Case stockman with CV blades, all good Case sellers/websites should have them in stock.

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What you want is to get one with CV blades, then use it on some meat, potatoes, and probably use it on some fruit too.
It doesn't take long at all to get to this, just a couple weeks unless you're using it on such foods every day which could get you there much faster.

Another option I've never tried that might work pretty well on a mirror polished Case blade is to use some birchwood Casey cold bluing solution on them.
Permanently blue or super blue, I use super blue on guns but don't know which would work best here.
 
I have a Carhartt Case Large Stockman that has "as ground" blades that "kind of" shine, certainly not near as shiny as the regular ss finish Case uses. They look sort of like a new CV finish. I don't know if Case still makes them, but that may fill your needs quite nicely.

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I have the large stockman and the wharn/clip mini trapper in as-ground stainless. Nice matte finish. I got mine cheap because they'd stopped making them, I'm pretty sure. Otherwise I do the emory-cloth ploy to mitigate the handling smears. Somebody around here de-glares his stainless with "grey scotch-brite(?)"
 
Look around on the auction sites for a Buck 307 Wrangler - same size Stockman as the Case 6375. Additionally Case has released the 6375 in various handle materials featuring As-Ground blades. What you want is out there. OH
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The one at the top is a 6375 CV large stockman. A couple of Granny Smith apples was all it took to turn the clip and sheepsfoot blades grey. The spey hasn't been used, so you can see how shiny all three blades started.

 
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There are so many great Stockmans out there. If you need cheap, go with Rough Rider. But why not try to find an old knife? Run through the Stockman Sunday thread here and you're sure to spot a good knife.

Stockman Sunday picture show

Post em if you got em:thumbsup: Here's my favorite :)
www.bladeforums.com www.bladeforums.com
 
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Just find yourself a nicely used Case stockman from the early to mid 70s, quality in that era was wonderful, shields were still being pinned, the red bone was wonderful, mostly carbon steel, and if it's a user with some patina it will actually be more affordable since most collectors are looking for pristine pieces. Should be able to get something great for well under $100.
 
You can also get great deals on some of the German brands, stuff like fight'n rooster isn't as in demand and the quality can be super high, probably the nicest stag congress knife I've ever seen is a fight'n rooster I got for around $40.
 
As mentioned, the CV option from Case ('75 pattern large stockman) is as good-looking as they come with a nice patina of your own on the blades. See the 1st pic below. That one is my all-time favorite and I carry it every single day.

Satin-finished options in stainless from other makers can also look pretty good, although they'll still look 'brighter' than patinated blades in carbon/CV. Both Camillus and Schrade are possibilities there, with plenty of those still found on the secondary market. Most of those were in 440A stainless, with some later versions in 420HC possibly. Camillus actually produced the already mentioned Buck 307, seen in the 2nd pic below. Camillus had the same exact pattern in their own stamping, with yellow synthetic handle covers, IIRC.

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If you can find one (& IMHO, have a healthy bank account): Vintage 1978 to 1986 Schrade USA Old Timer 858 (no "OT" on the tang stamp) and 858OT Lumberjack Stockman.
(They were made without the "OT" in the early years, with "OT" in the later years, I believe. Also, with or without the "Schrade +" tang stamp the 858/858OT has stainless steel blades. AFAIK the only Schrade that "breaks" or ignores the "no "Schrade+" = Carbon Steel blades" "Rule" or "Law".
The 858/858OT is only 4.5 inch closed. I think it was only made with the sawcut Delrin covers. They do have the Swendon (Swendin?) (Swindon?) key construction. They have a Satin blade finish.
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A much more affordable alternative is the current production BTI Schrade offshore production 858OT, with 7CR17MoV ("440A equivalent") satin finish blades.
Note that the post 2004 bankruptcy offshore production Taylor Schrade and BTI Schrade dumped the key construction, going to the industry standard pinned construction.
The offshore knives are the same 4.5 inch closed length.
To help prevent ... "dishonest" ... so called "people" from passing off the much more affordable offshore knives as a rare and expensive vintage Schrade USA knife, Taylor Schrade changed the color of the sawcut Delrin, along with the number, size, and shape of the sawcut grooves. When Taylor sold out to BTI in 2018, BTI didn't change any of the anti-fraud features Taylor had made.
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Back to back showing difference in colors and the sawcut grooves. (USA made knife on top)
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BTI also makes a 858OTB with genuine bone covers (or "Fake Delrin" if you prefer) that has mirror polished "440C equivalent" 9CR18MoV blades.

The Rough Ryder Classic Carbon and Classic Carbon II knives start out with mirror polished T10 carbon steel blades. They will take a patina, but not as quickly as a 10xx carbon steel blade.
The Rough Ryder Carbon Classic RR1740 is only just 4.25 inch closed.View attachment 1695628
 
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Recommend a large case cv stockman in yellow delrin! then dip the blades in some hot apple cider vinegar for a couple of minutes.
 
Nalapombu said:
Hey all.

I really like CASE folders. I only have a few now but want to pick up others. I have a LARGE or JUMBO as some call them, STOCKMAN and it’s a beautiful and functional knife. It has the blades made of the CASE stainless, which are polished really shiny. I would like to find another Jumbo Stockman, but I want this one to have blades that aren’t so shiny. You know, the way pocket knives used to look back in the day. I’d like to add it to my others.

Naturally I’d love to have a CASE Stockman like this, but older CASE knives get really expensive, really quick. So, I guess I need to start looking at other brands. The problem is that I don’t know which brands to start looking for.

I’ve done a tiny bit of looking on EBay but didn’t find anything too interesting. I did find some large Stockmen knives that looked decent, but they are made in China. The brand is ROUGH RYDER I think and new knives are less than $20! I might get one just to see how they look and feel. Prolly use it as a truck knife to keep in the center console.

I don’t care what the handle is made from. I am most interested in the steel and it looking great like I remember the knives my Dad and Papa used to carry.

Any suggestions on what makers I should search for? If I wanted a CASE, about how long ago did they use the steel I am looking for in their blades?

Any help you can offer would be appreciated. Thank you for your time and help.

BD
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Not exactly certain what you are seeking. Your description of the blade finish is somewhat open to interpretation.
Case CV steel is non-stainless. It will darken and roughen with time. Or you can speed the process by sticking the blade in a potato and leaving it overnight.
Case used to make several lines of knives with "as ground" blades. "American Workman Series" and "Carrhart Series" spring to mind. "As ground" blades are stainless, but are not put through the final polishing process, so they don't have a mirror finish. If you look around on-line knife shops for
Case "as ground" stockman
you should find some

Case does produce a Jumbo stockman with CV blades.
Unfortunately I'm not aware of a Jumbo stockman in with "as ground" blades. However, a Case "Jumbo Stockman" is 4 1/4" closed. A "Large Stockman" is 4" closed. You may be able to find a "Large Stockman" with "as ground blades"
 
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