Large traditional knife

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Hi there,

my name is Sebastian, I am a forester from Germany and I am looking for a large tradtional american knife. What I am looking for exactly is a knife with a blade shape like the Northfield Tascosa but with a larger blade. 9 or 10 cm (4 inch) would be my preference. Use for this knife will be mainly hunting. I have thought also about a folding knife with a saw blade, but I think there are not many like that around.

From the design I really like the Fallkniven Gentlemans Folder, but it is to expensive for my taste, and I would prefer bone handles, too...

Steel wise, I would prefer 1095 or other over a 440 steel. I have seen nice knives from GEC and Queen, but most have too small blades for my taste.

Can you recommend me a knife that is similar to my description?

Many thanks

Sebastian
 
Wouldn't a GEC 23 be big enough? They're fairly hulking:eek::cool:

Or a Queen Mountain Man available with or without the lockback.

Welcome to the Forum and to the Traditional life:thumbup::thumbup:

Regards, Will
 
The Buck 110 is *THE* American lockback hunter. It's the first lockback hunter in the American market and really defined the niche. So much so, that other lockbacks are sometimes called Buck knives, as a generic term.

The standard Buck 110 isn't very expensive and their 420HC is hardened to 58Rc and is indistinguishable (for me) from the 12C27 that Mora and Opinel both use. If you want a more carbide rich steel, Buck offers S30V blade options through their custom shop. Here's my old one from the 70s.

Buck 110 by Pinnah, on Flickr


If you want something more along the looks (and price) of the GEC, you can get the Queen Mountain Man.
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GEC also produced a larger lockback called the #42 Missouri Trader. Harder to find.

Good hunting.
 
I realize you asked after an American knife, but you could try the Rough Rider Deer Slayer out of interest while waiting for the ideal American knife.

The Deer Slayer is GIANT 5.75" 7 15 cm shut and comes in a variety of bone handles with big blade too....
 
The GEC 23 and the Queen Mountain Man slipjoint are both great knives. I've gotten great luck in better quality of the Mountain Man slipjoint with zebra wood scales, as opposed to the earlier cocobolo lockback MM that was pitiful. One of the newer Queen ACSB Mountain Man slipjoint models had a little bit of gunk in the handle, after I cleaned it out, it worked great, not as well as the zebra wood though. The GEC 23 will remove fingers, especially with the guillotine springs. I sent it to GEC and they made it much more forgiving. Can't pinch it open, but the pull great improved.

I realize that there may be some local/regional/laws coming into play for why you want a folder, but wouldn't a fixed blade be a better choice for hunting? I think that Puma brought back the blade and saw folder combo, they are made in Germany and assembled in China, supposedly. It will be more difficult to acquire, but Camillus made some blade/saw blade combos for Remington in the 80s and 90s. Might just be collectibles at this point, price wise.

Take a look at Bark River, Lon Humphrey, Scott Gossman, take a gander in the custom section on here.
 
Welcome to the forums!

All good suggestions above, I'll add the AG Russell large folding hunter. It's a massive and superbly built beast of a knife. It's made in China I believe, but AG has great quality control - I'm very happy with mine.

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Here's the description from agrussell.com

The 4-5/8" flat ground classic clip point blade is 8Cr13MoV at 57-58 Rc. and measures 5/32" thick and 1" wide. The liners, bolster, caps and the federal shield are all 400 series stainless steel. Includes a handsome braided brown leather thong for lifting the knife from the pocket.
 
Case makes a folding hunter with a 4" blade. You can get the single blade CV version in Amber "Rancher" Sawcut Bone, or the 2-blade version in Chestnut Bone CV. Item numbers are 6165 CV and 6265 CV.

Case also makes a version of their Trapper knife with a gut hook and saw, in their Tru-Sharp stainless steel only, but the blade is about 3", not 4".
 
Hi,
thank you very much for your help. I like the GEC 23 very much I think. But also the 42 looks nice. The Russel is too big a knife for my taste I think. Many thanks for your help. It is so great to have the ability nowadays to reach out to some knife nuts across the ocean to get some help with such a specific question. Many thanks.

If you like traditional knives, from Germany I can recommend Hubertus and also Otter knives. Those two are not so famous as Puma, but they also come from Solingen and have a long history.

Many thanks

Sebastian
 
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Boker 4021 .

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Puma Game Warden with saw.

These I don't think are made anymore, but there is a health amount of them in new shape on the secondary market.

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Schlieper/Olbertz with saw, sadly doesn't lock. They used to make a similar one that did, and one with a clip point.
 
The old Schrade USA, Uncle Henry 127UH Lockblade Hunter has a decent size blade and a liner lock. Found this one in a pawnshop this past week, it needed a little TLC; it now works good as new. OH

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As someone that worked as a professional forester before all of the lockback knives took over, I would say the Case 6265 (and other brands of this general pattern) was the favorite traditional pattern folding knife in the woods. The Case 6254 trappers followed very closely behind the larger knife.
 
Many thanks for your help again. I think I d opt for a GEC 23 stag. I will try to find one. My preference would be a lockback or liner lock. If you know anybody who would like to sell one, please let me know. Stag handles or a nice wood 'd be great...
 
This is a great outdoors knife and a pattern that's been around in the US as long as they've been makin' knives here, the Folding Hunter Pattern, no locking blades but it's a big knife with a big back spring. ;)

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silenthunterstudios said:
The GEC 23 and the Queen Mountain Man slipjoint are both great knives. I've gotten great luck in better quality of the Mountain Man slipjoint with zebra wood scales, as opposed to the earlier cocobolo lockback MM that was pitiful. One of the newer Queen ACSB Mountain Man slipjoint models had a little bit of gunk in the handle, after I cleaned it out, it worked great, not as well as the zebra wood though. The GEC 23 will remove fingers, especially with the guillotine springs. I sent it to GEC and they made it much more forgiving. Can't pinch it open, but the pull great improved.

I realize that there may be some local/regional/laws coming into play for why you want a folder, but wouldn't a fixed blade be a better choice for hunting? I think that Puma brought back the blade and saw folder combo, they are made in Germany and assembled in China, supposedly. It will be more difficult to acquire, but Camillus made some blade/saw blade combos for Remington in the 80s and 90s. Might just be collectibles at this point, price wise.

Take a look at Bark River, Lon Humphrey, Scott Gossman, take a gander in the custom section on here.
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Sorry, I forgot to answer your comment. I used to take a fixed blade for hunting but I realized I don't need that. A large sized folder is enough for my hunting (deer and pigs with rifle). And a folder is nicer to transport. My most often used knife is a Ontario Rat 1 Folder. This knife is absolutely perfect I think. It is just a bit ugly. Apart from that, great knife.
 
Schrade 70T IMO it's a tank of a knife 4 inch blade 8 and 1/2 overall. You can still find these at reasonable prices. Good luck on your hunt.:thumbup:

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Here's one of my 23's. I have a locking single-blade in stag as well. Great knives. You might want to also take a look at the new 98's from GEC. They're making a BIG cattleman that will be nearly 5" long!
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I have both the Buck 110, in fact 3 of them, and a GEC 42. The newest Buck 110(50th anniversary model) cost $46, the GEC 42 $106. The Buck is heavy and bulky compared to the GEC. It should be carried in a belt sheath, the GEC could be carried in a pocket. The Buck is a heavy duty knife with solid blade lock-up. The GEC is a light duty knife with side-to-side blade wobble. I used my first Buck 110(circa 1965) as my hunting knife in Alaska and it performed well on Sitka White-Tail deer.
 
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