Large Vantage with screws....

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Anybody know when Buck switched to rivets on the Large Vantage. I'm trying to find one with screws for a scale and blade swap. Is there a model number or scale color that will indicate screws?
 
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Anybody know when Buck switched to rivets on the Large Vantage. I'm trying to find one with screws for a scale and blade swap. Is there a model number or scale color that will indicate screws?
I maybe wrong but I think the vantage force pro has the rivets and single piece back fill spacer. Vantage pro, select, and avid models have screws and open back with a mid bushing type spacer and heal spacer. There are several different model numbers with various parts differences.
 
Ahhh... I had heard they switch to rivets on all of them but didn't validate it. I have the micarta/20CV version which is riveted. Will see if I can swap with one of the other ones.

I'll so some more research and see what I can find. Thanks much.
 
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You are welcome RipD, On the models I have that’s the way they are. I have the Vantage from SK also with Micarta/ 20cv. I use it every day and really like it. Mine was a bit sluggish at first but then I cleaned it and found a bit of tissue in the pivot area. Then used some oil, I also use a speck of nickel antiseeze where the liner lock slides against the blade and it flicks open real nice now. It’s a bugger to get the washers back in with the riveted frame. The screw type are a lot easier to clean and reassemble.
 
Yeah, same here. I had to disassemble, clean, and lube. I ordered some thicker Pb washers to see if I get to work well with only one on each side and get rid of the thin nylon washer. Read about that on another thread. Also got the tip to use tweezers to get the washers back in. Night and day difference to reassemble.

And agree on the knife: the knife overall is ok. The blade is great. Wish Buck would step it up with this model (washers, better detent).
 
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weren't the earlier versions all screws? they switched to rivets under the scales which are still held by screws.

think I have a couple early ones that are screws, but never took the scales off. the plastic scale holder versions are all with rivets under the scale inserts arent they?

the confusing part is some that dont have the plastic scale holder are still rivets, or so I thought? including the 20cv sk version and bcci damascus, correct?
 
All mine have screws. Latest model is 2015

Thanks for sharing that. Guessing some of those went with rivets after 2015. (To be clear, I'm talking about the liners being riveted, not the scales.)

weren't the earlier versions all screws? they switched to rivets under the scales which are still held by screws.
This is what I read elsewhere. Not clear to me which still have screws.

think I have a couple early ones that are screws, but never took the scales off. the plastic scale holder versions are all with rivets under the scale inserts arent they?

the confusing part is some that dont have the plastic scale holder are still rivets, or so I thought? including the 20cv sk version and bcci damascus, correct?
The 20cv version is riveted under the scales.
 
The only one I have ever taken apart is the 347 Pro(2nd from top), trying to adjust the blade from touching liner when closed.
 
The first one I encountered riveted construction under the scales was the BSA version. In 2017 with the inlaid rosewoood on frn. I believe the open backs are pinned and the force pro with the backspacer had screws. I’ve done a couple swaps from pinned to screwed. Not easy, but not terribly hard. Lining the washers up is really the main speed bump. I’m also curious if the c and c force pro is riveted under those scales.
 
The first one I encountered riveted construction under the scales was the BSA version. In 2017 with the inlaid rosewoood on frn. I believe the open backs are pinned and the force pro with the backspacer had screws. I’ve done a couple swaps from pinned to screwed. Not easy, but not terribly hard. Lining the washers up is really the main speed bump. I’m also curious if the c and c force pro is riveted under those scales.
Not following where the challenge is. Replacing all 4 washers on the pinned models can be a challenge. Significantly easier with a wedge to open the scales a little and a pair of tweezers to drop the washers on the pivot. These two things take it from frustratingly hard to mildly inconvenient (at least for me).

What's the challenge lining up the washers on a model with screws. Not challenging you - just trying to understand the issue.
 
Not following where the challenge is. Replacing all 4 washers on the pinned models can be a challenge. Significantly easier with a wedge to open the scales a little and a pair of tweezers to drop the washers on the pivot. These two things take it from frustratingly hard to mildly inconvenient (at least for me).

What's the challenge lining up the washers on a model with screws. Not challenging you - just trying to understand the issue.

No real challenges with the screwed models. The pinned I would assemble the pivot and all the washers, and slide it all in together. Keeping it all together in my fingers while getting it back in was the tricky part. I never thought to use a wedge to get more clearance. Thanks for that tip!
Edit: I should add that the BSA pinned had PB washers. Those went into the screwed force avid. All 4 nylon washers went into the pinned frame. Having to manipulate 4 instead of 2 probably didn’t help
 
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Interesting. My pinned 20cv/micarta model has both Pb and nylon - 2 of each. Nylon against the frame, pb against the blade. Not sure what the point of having both is vs. going with thicker nylon or Teflon. I'm sure there's a reason for it.
 
Can confirm that the current Vantage select has rivets rather than screws. Not surprised. Also heard from somebody with a Vantage Pro from 2017 that it's also riveted.
 
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