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I didn't spend all moring writing this just not be be able to post it now that the tread is shut down..I think he should hear it..
please forgive my grammar
MR KI no disrespect intended here, just questions...that you did not answer for me before..
and now more of them.
Originally Posted by Jon Graham knives
I just reread an article on shiva ki in blades international online mag.
In that article it has the same picture of the severed oak limb, but
states that it took four swings to go through it.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331130&page=5&pp=20
now if this is true I'd like to know why the two story's? please
and you said
(My blades are outcutting the top Master smiths,3 to 1. No one can
come close to my blades. )
if true I'd like some names please.but please see below before answering.
I take pride in being up front and straight with my customers.
here are some of the things you've said.
"There you go, maybe you should drop by and see if I`m legit.
shiva
Haven`t knocked any body out since the National Toughman two years ago,"
what does that have to do with knives??
"My sentiments exactly, put up or shut up. Can you cut 16 one inch rope bundle? Every spirit blade I make can. Bet you drive that nail
with your head shiva"
"My sentiments exactly. I have many photos and video to verify. Whats on my web site is more than enough proof , for an intelligent individual. shiva " I don't think I'm stupid?
"Fitch and I had a nice talk, after I wrote to him a letter of apology, for unfotunate
behavior on my part, relative to his cutting." (a Very nice thing to do.that should have been done.imho)
He stated the most he ever cut was 7. Goddard cut 7 in Oregon. With a special made blade, only for rope cutting, Ed schempp only ((cut 9))). And his blade broke when used to cut a small limb.
So there.
Originally Posted by Keith Montgomery
Coug, I think what he is saying is that his knives will cut through three times as many ropes than the knives being made by the ABS Mastersmiths. This is of course an extreme exaggeration. His Spirit Blade cut through 15 ropes. That is an awesome feat, but most, (if not all ABS smiths can make knives that will cut through more than 5)). Along with martial arts, Master Ki seems to also be a master of hype. He makes excellent knives, but he does seem to lack respect for other makers. Maybe it is just how he comes across
you said
"Are you math challenged? 5 to 15 IS 3 to 1 sk"
I believe you missed it he said more than 5
you said Ed schempp only cut 9 "
NO that is not 3:1 ..but again, if true very impressive. but still wrong to say.
then you say
You are the kind of guy that wouldn't believe if I cut off your leg at the thigh,
quote (which my spirit blade can do". ) I have a blade that I think can to this also but I haven't tried it.
please! the name of the guy you tested this on. do you get the point here I'm sure you do...
you said
"" I have many photos and video to verify. Whats on my web site is more than enough proof , for an intelligent individual. shiva
and
You think I`m all hype, fake photos, fake video. You are welcome to drop by, anytime, and this little old man will put up, and you will not go home happy." more threats not needed I'm sure.
and you go on to say.
"Do you have any idea how long it took to get the CIA fake documents division
to fake all those photo`s and video? Get a life, fool. more names?
Please drop by, I haven't knocked anybody out since the National toughman,
two years ago." and more threats.
Mr KI
no one here has threatened you or called you names, why do you feel you have to..I studied the arts too and one of the things I leaned was temperament.
please do not discredit your Belt this way this is very untactful..for any of the arts.
.throughout these post you have been name calling but nowhere do it see anyone calling you names
or threatened you.
you say
"How good would I be if I was too stupid to know how good I am. I can and will
do what I say. That`s not arrogance, that`s just telling it like it is. I am most
respectful to respectful people. The rest of you #@$%&*! " colorful to say the least..
It seems you have respect for the buyers not the unknowing that ask questions and not getting answers..
answers would solve all problem as I see it.
you said
"I`m a hermit. I did the Guild show and the Blade Super show, 8 years straight. I was
ABS for some 15 years, I wrote John Fitch a letter of apology for my words.
But I stand behind my words by deeds. No hype. "
see,, blades international online mag.
In that article it has the same picture of the severed oak limb, but
states that it took four swings to go through it, is this true??? you said No hype?
"I am retired, I`m not doing this for the money, I`m not trying to sell knives."
then why the phone number so many time here? and the big prices? just wondering why?
" I`m just making a rare few knives that happen to cut incredible. Wasn`t my goal, to make a knife that cuts like magic. Just worked out that way.. shiva"
BUT this is what we are looking for, speaking for myself.
then again
"What, are you brain dead? Just look at my web site!" ( more name calling)
then you say
Hype? What hype. You cannot make a blade that will cut 14 three times,
15 three times and 16 eleven times. HYPE? There is no hype about me.
You are the one with wind whistiling through the holes in your head.
shiva (name calling) then back to the oak limb thing yes or no? 1 or 4?
"Do you have any idea what an airhead you are?" (more name calling)
The video is not on the site, it is right here. I need to edit it down to just the cuts. I`ve got 8 photos on my web site, how much proof you need?
(to edit it ?,, this is the part that bothers me...I too can edit a video to look the way I want it to. as well as pictures )
in most movies this is a standard practice. no CIA involved at all.
think about this on the other end,,
if I wanted to be real aggressive in selling
I'd tell a few whoppers, (because I can)
edit a few photos (because I can)
I'd get on the net and set up a few other accounts and start pushing happy customers. (because I can)
now this is interesting too,,
then knowing that some guys feel they have the best and sharpest knife on earth just because they have not
been blessed with anything better and just don't know better..some still think a rail rood spike makes great knife as is. NO it does not, the carbon content is to low. less than 1050
Hence 1050 steel, to 1095 steel, O1, L6, I use kick ass 154CM. maybe there is something better
then that out there, I will be told there is for sure..
I post this not to discredit you but to shed light on a few things for you/us, in trying keeping us all honest and up front
in this community of great guys. .as you say you could be a new bench mark for the 1000's of makers that have graced our lives.
but I have to ask,
kicking one ass don't make them right, it just makes them look more stupid if he is wrong.
why is it you are doing all the name calling here?,
I too make knives that will wipe the hair from my arm.
ask the guys of Necka, that is personal proof it, at our last HI,
I did this and found the next day a light scab covering the place the hair was,
I took off an outer layer of skin also.
should I gloat over it ? no not me ..maybe I should though to sell more knives.?
you said "I am retired, I`m not doing this for the money, I`m not trying to sell knives."
then PLEASE tell ME why all this in this post?? the name calling , phone numbers,I have blades on hand ,the threats, and
saying you are better than all the Master Smiths,,
quote 'My blades are outcutting the top Master smiths,3 to 1. No one can
come close to my blades' unquote, NO ,,,not true,, by your own words above,
you say you cut the 3" oak, but why in ,,,,
blades international online mag.In that article it has the same picture of the severed oak limb, but
states that it took four swings to go through it??
I've made blades that will cut a 5" fur log in 5 swipes, I'm sure others can too.
but still it is impressive if you can cut anywhere close to what you say you can cut, and no I'M not blind too but I am wise to editing. not that you are doing this..
I could comment a little on the ABS and you're association with them also but I won't.
this place has a way of weeding out the makers that have secrets and don't want to share,
it is the essence and purpose of most of it. and
"that's the way it is" Walter Cronkite <spelling"
please answer my questions Mr. Ki
who are the top master Smiths you out cut..I have questions for them.
why did you say you cut the 3" Oak in one swipe and the Mag says it was 4 swipes, it's the same picture quoted by Jon Graham
if you are not trying to sell knives just what are you doing? and at thoughts prices with 1095 steel? it's about the cheapest high carbon steel you can buy.
please forgive my grammar
MR KI no disrespect intended here, just questions...that you did not answer for me before..
and now more of them.
Originally Posted by Jon Graham knives
I just reread an article on shiva ki in blades international online mag.
In that article it has the same picture of the severed oak limb, but
states that it took four swings to go through it.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331130&page=5&pp=20
now if this is true I'd like to know why the two story's? please
and you said
(My blades are outcutting the top Master smiths,3 to 1. No one can
come close to my blades. )
if true I'd like some names please.but please see below before answering.
I take pride in being up front and straight with my customers.
here are some of the things you've said.
"There you go, maybe you should drop by and see if I`m legit.
shiva
Haven`t knocked any body out since the National Toughman two years ago,"
what does that have to do with knives??
"My sentiments exactly, put up or shut up. Can you cut 16 one inch rope bundle? Every spirit blade I make can. Bet you drive that nail
with your head shiva"
"My sentiments exactly. I have many photos and video to verify. Whats on my web site is more than enough proof , for an intelligent individual. shiva " I don't think I'm stupid?
"Fitch and I had a nice talk, after I wrote to him a letter of apology, for unfotunate
behavior on my part, relative to his cutting." (a Very nice thing to do.that should have been done.imho)
He stated the most he ever cut was 7. Goddard cut 7 in Oregon. With a special made blade, only for rope cutting, Ed schempp only ((cut 9))). And his blade broke when used to cut a small limb.
So there.
9 ropes:to 16 rrr sorry NO it is not..I'm using a calculator..but still impressive though..Shivakicustomknives said:
Originally Posted by Keith Montgomery
Coug, I think what he is saying is that his knives will cut through three times as many ropes than the knives being made by the ABS Mastersmiths. This is of course an extreme exaggeration. His Spirit Blade cut through 15 ropes. That is an awesome feat, but most, (if not all ABS smiths can make knives that will cut through more than 5)). Along with martial arts, Master Ki seems to also be a master of hype. He makes excellent knives, but he does seem to lack respect for other makers. Maybe it is just how he comes across
you said
"Are you math challenged? 5 to 15 IS 3 to 1 sk"
I believe you missed it he said more than 5
you said Ed schempp only cut 9 "
NO that is not 3:1 ..but again, if true very impressive. but still wrong to say.
then you say
You are the kind of guy that wouldn't believe if I cut off your leg at the thigh,
quote (which my spirit blade can do". ) I have a blade that I think can to this also but I haven't tried it.
please! the name of the guy you tested this on. do you get the point here I'm sure you do...
you said
"" I have many photos and video to verify. Whats on my web site is more than enough proof , for an intelligent individual. shiva
and
You think I`m all hype, fake photos, fake video. You are welcome to drop by, anytime, and this little old man will put up, and you will not go home happy." more threats not needed I'm sure.
and you go on to say.
"Do you have any idea how long it took to get the CIA fake documents division
to fake all those photo`s and video? Get a life, fool. more names?
Please drop by, I haven't knocked anybody out since the National toughman,
two years ago." and more threats.
Mr KI
no one here has threatened you or called you names, why do you feel you have to..I studied the arts too and one of the things I leaned was temperament.
please do not discredit your Belt this way this is very untactful..for any of the arts.
.throughout these post you have been name calling but nowhere do it see anyone calling you names
or threatened you.
you say
"How good would I be if I was too stupid to know how good I am. I can and will
do what I say. That`s not arrogance, that`s just telling it like it is. I am most
respectful to respectful people. The rest of you #@$%&*! " colorful to say the least..
It seems you have respect for the buyers not the unknowing that ask questions and not getting answers..
answers would solve all problem as I see it.
you said
"I`m a hermit. I did the Guild show and the Blade Super show, 8 years straight. I was
ABS for some 15 years, I wrote John Fitch a letter of apology for my words.
But I stand behind my words by deeds. No hype. "
see,, blades international online mag.
In that article it has the same picture of the severed oak limb, but
states that it took four swings to go through it, is this true??? you said No hype?
"I am retired, I`m not doing this for the money, I`m not trying to sell knives."
then why the phone number so many time here? and the big prices? just wondering why?
" I`m just making a rare few knives that happen to cut incredible. Wasn`t my goal, to make a knife that cuts like magic. Just worked out that way.. shiva"
BUT this is what we are looking for, speaking for myself.
then again
"What, are you brain dead? Just look at my web site!" ( more name calling)
then you say
Hype? What hype. You cannot make a blade that will cut 14 three times,
15 three times and 16 eleven times. HYPE? There is no hype about me.
You are the one with wind whistiling through the holes in your head.
shiva (name calling) then back to the oak limb thing yes or no? 1 or 4?
"Do you have any idea what an airhead you are?" (more name calling)
The video is not on the site, it is right here. I need to edit it down to just the cuts. I`ve got 8 photos on my web site, how much proof you need?
(to edit it ?,, this is the part that bothers me...I too can edit a video to look the way I want it to. as well as pictures )
in most movies this is a standard practice. no CIA involved at all.
think about this on the other end,,
if I wanted to be real aggressive in selling
I'd tell a few whoppers, (because I can)
edit a few photos (because I can)
I'd get on the net and set up a few other accounts and start pushing happy customers. (because I can)
now this is interesting too,,
then knowing that some guys feel they have the best and sharpest knife on earth just because they have not
been blessed with anything better and just don't know better..some still think a rail rood spike makes great knife as is. NO it does not, the carbon content is to low. less than 1050
Hence 1050 steel, to 1095 steel, O1, L6, I use kick ass 154CM. maybe there is something better
then that out there, I will be told there is for sure..
I post this not to discredit you but to shed light on a few things for you/us, in trying keeping us all honest and up front
in this community of great guys. .as you say you could be a new bench mark for the 1000's of makers that have graced our lives.
but I have to ask,
kicking one ass don't make them right, it just makes them look more stupid if he is wrong.
why is it you are doing all the name calling here?,
I too make knives that will wipe the hair from my arm.
ask the guys of Necka, that is personal proof it, at our last HI,
I did this and found the next day a light scab covering the place the hair was,
I took off an outer layer of skin also.
should I gloat over it ? no not me ..maybe I should though to sell more knives.?
you said "I am retired, I`m not doing this for the money, I`m not trying to sell knives."
then PLEASE tell ME why all this in this post?? the name calling , phone numbers,I have blades on hand ,the threats, and
saying you are better than all the Master Smiths,,
quote 'My blades are outcutting the top Master smiths,3 to 1. No one can
come close to my blades' unquote, NO ,,,not true,, by your own words above,
you say you cut the 3" oak, but why in ,,,,
blades international online mag.In that article it has the same picture of the severed oak limb, but
states that it took four swings to go through it??
I've made blades that will cut a 5" fur log in 5 swipes, I'm sure others can too.
but still it is impressive if you can cut anywhere close to what you say you can cut, and no I'M not blind too but I am wise to editing. not that you are doing this..
I could comment a little on the ABS and you're association with them also but I won't.
this place has a way of weeding out the makers that have secrets and don't want to share,
it is the essence and purpose of most of it. and
"that's the way it is" Walter Cronkite <spelling"
please answer my questions Mr. Ki
who are the top master Smiths you out cut..I have questions for them.
why did you say you cut the 3" Oak in one swipe and the Mag says it was 4 swipes, it's the same picture quoted by Jon Graham
if you are not trying to sell knives just what are you doing? and at thoughts prices with 1095 steel? it's about the cheapest high carbon steel you can buy.
