Laws for minors carrying a weapon in Los Angeles.

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What are the laws for that? Is it allowed? If it isn't, I'm beginning to hate how much our country goes back on the main amendments time and time again.

If we'd like to get more specific, I'm in Los Angeles County in the city of El Segundo.
 
This is a good question! Certainly don't want to carry anything at all (not even sharp scissors!) onto the grounds of a K-12 school......

My daughter is 17 and sometimes works late nights and has to walk to her car across a poorly lit parking lot. I have her quietly packing a 4" Benchmade AFCK....legal or not! At high school, the knife stays locked in the truck and she always parks on city streets and never on school property. When she turns 18, I will probably move her up to an Emerson Karambit which is a very formidable weapon, and can be legally carried even on a college campus!!!

LA city has a 3" rule, so keep that in mind, whatever you decide to do. Not sure about El Segundo......
 
It is illegal to carry any "weapon" in CA.

The question is what is a weapon. That is too complex to answer here and has more to do with intent than anything else.
 
exerpt from the los angleles municipal code:


SEC. 45.01. FIREARMS – KNIVES – SLINGSHOTS – SALE TO MINORS.
(Amended by Ord. No. 169,154, Eff. 1/1/94.)

No person shall sell, exchange, give or loan to any person under 18 years of age any:

(a) slingshot,

(b) springback knife,

(c) fixed or locking blade knife having a blade over two inches in length,

(d) dirk or dagger having a blade over two inches in length,

(e) ice pick,

(f) tool or implement having a point similar to an ice pick, a shaft at least three inches in length and a handle,

(g) straight edge razor or razor blade fitted to a handle,

(h) gun,

(i) revolver,

(j) pistol or firearm of any description,

(k) spring or air gun or other device designed or intended to discharge any pellets, BB shot, shot or other deadly or dangerous missile, or

(l) ammunition, cartridge, shell or other device, whether containing any explosive substance or not, designed and intended for use in any weapons enumerated herein.

Work related uses of any of the above weapons are not prohibited under this section.

SEC. 45.02. FIREARMS – MINORS – POSSESSION OF.
No person under 18 years of age shall have in his possession, care, custody or control any article or thing mentioned in the preceding section.
 
Awesome! I'll be sure to check up and see what my local laws for that are. Ah the advantages in knowing an ex-captian in my city.
 
R.W.Clark said:
It is illegal to carry any "weapon" in CA.
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Is this in the Penal Code somewhere?

I know some states have laws against carrying weapons, or weapons for the purpose of offense or defense, or going about with the intention of going armed, but I haven't seen anything similar in the CA Penal Code.

I was under the impression that knives that were carried, and were not in violation of 12020 or 653k, were not prohibited, regardless of intent.

Have I overlooked something?
 
medusaoblongata said:
Is this in the Penal Code somewhere?

I know some states have laws against carrying weapons, or weapons for the purpose of offense or defense, or going about with the intention of going armed, but I haven't seen anything similar in the CA Penal Code.

I was under the impression that knives that were carried, and were not in violation of 12020 or 653k, were not prohibited, regardless of intent.

Have I overlooked something?
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i believe it is the following portion of the law that would make a "weapon" illegal.

(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife
or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of
ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury
or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not
prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use
as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death
only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.
(24)(d) Knives carried in sheaths which are worn openly suspended from
the waist of the wearer are not concealed within the meaning of this
section.


simply in your pocket, closed, if asked, the safe reply as to why you carry a knife would be something to the effect of: opening mail or packages, work related use, cleaning fingernails, seatbelt cutter, or anything inocuous that implies it is anything but a weapon.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
a folding knife that is not
prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use
as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death
only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.

given the totality of the circumstances, ie method of carry, statements made about self defense/protection, etc, could make any folder a violation.
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I have no idea how you get your statement from what's written in the law. If a closed folding knife is not a "dirk or dagger," then there's nothing the carrier could say about it that would make it one. I had really been under the impression that CA law was quite clear on this.
 
medusaoblongata said:
I have no idea how you get your statement from what's written in the law. If a closed folding knife is not a "dirk or dagger," then there's nothing the carrier could say about it that would make it one. I had really been under the impression that CA law was quite clear on this.
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you are correct sir. i reread so many laws so often, honestly, sometimes i mix them up and the verbage gets muddled in my head. :(

ill edit.

my point was basically if questioned, not to refer to any knife as a weapon.
 
So do you agree, then, that nowhere in CA Penal Code does it state that it is illegal to carry knife for the purpose of using it as a defensive weapon (assuming the knife is otherwise carried legally)?
 
medusaoblongata said:
So do you agree, then, that nowhere in CA Penal Code does it state that it is illegal to carry knife for the purpose of using it as a defensive weapon (assuming the knife is otherwise carried legally)?
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not that i can find.


i suggest not saying it is a weapon if questioned by law enforcement. it only begs for further investigation, as any good officer will likely do.

i would not recommend being the test case in this instance.
 
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