Learning New Tricks

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Last December I decided to buy a knife and some sharpening stones because I stumbled across a Youtube video of a guy whittling hair. I decided I wanted to be able to do that, mainly because the process didn't look that hard. Needless to say, I had no clue what I was doing. It took me two days before I could sharpen a knife that would slice paper. I accidentally whittled a hair after several weeks of constant research and practice. After a month or so I could reliably sharpen most knives into what I considered very sharp--may whittle hair or would be right there on the verge.

As with most things in life, I wish I knew then what I know now, mainly because it would have saved me lots of money figuring everything out. I don't use any of the stones or stropping supplies that I originally purchased, and I've grinded my Para3 M390 down to the bone. I now exclusively use Venev diamond stones, beginning with the F80 or F150 grits and finishing on the OCB F1200. I strop on sanded balsa glued to basswood blocks, with Jende 1 micron poly diamond down to Jende 0.1 micron poly diamond. I am convinced that, for the money, there are no better stones and stropping compounds than Venev and Jende. They will always be as good as you are.

Anyways, late yesterday I was sharpening a knife (CPM 154) I hadn't sharpened in a while, and I started working the blade differently than I usually do. I usually sharpen with the blade perpendicular to the stone, but, while holding the same angle obviously, I started sharpening at both open and closed angles (see pic below for reference). I noticed that this seemed to really buff out all of the scratches from the previous stone, so I kept doing it. On the F1200 stone I really made a conscious effort to spend a lot of time working the blade with these different angles. Before going to strops I could tell the entire bevel looked different than it usually does. Both sides were extremely clean, and I knew that the knife was going to be really sharp. Stropping confirmed this. It was the first time I could whittle hair on each pass from the tip all the way to the bottom of the blade. The knife would pull 5-6 layers off of the hair before melting it. This was the first time I had ever been able to do anything like this. I immediately sharpened another knife (S30V) with the same technique to make sure it wasn't a mistake! Luckily I reached the same result.

Anyways, I thought I would share that with you guys. Let me know if any of y'all have discovered new tricks along the way that seemed to make a profound difference in your results.

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Let me know if any of y'all have discovered new tricks along the way that seemed to make a profound difference in your results.
Using an Edge Pro Apex.
Whittling by the 4k stone and you won't see a strop in sight. ;)
Sure I have finer stones up to 8,000
I just bought a Edge Pro Matrix 4k

From my research it is superior to the Venevs but I have almost no experience with it yet. I only bought it for sharpening those funny S__V steels.

As far as the "trick" the trick is to keep the stone actually cutting the steel on the very edge of the knife. The best way to do that is to employ a jig, guide, machine (call it what you will) that maintains a precise stone to edge relationship. Anything else is wasted motion, wasted stone material and I was going to say wasted time. Every one tells me how much faster free hand is, then they go off on a tour of various strops and cleaning strops and loading strops o_O that I no longer even glance at. Three or four stones and done.
 
The movement your working with now is basically the same as a stone on a guided system I think. Myself, I was never able to develop the muscle memory to keep a consistent angle on the stone in order to use hand sharpening stones. I went to a guided system for that reason. And I ended up with a Hapstone M2 and have nothing but happy with it. I've used different stones and in time will have the complete set of Matrix stones for my sharpener.
I have to say though that in strop compounds, I have not seen any yet that do as well as the Venev diamond paste! They smooth on the strop so easy and leave no cakey film on top. Just melt into the leather and work smooth as butter.
I also agree with Wowbager on the Matrix 4k. It leaves a glass edge that kinda screams "screw stropping".Just go light as heck on the stroke.
 
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