Leatherman Curl

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I just don't get it, the last few releases from Leatherman have been underwhelming. Seems like the curl is aimed at the wave but with totally inferior tool selection and not much cheaper. It does not look like it even has spring loaded pliers, does not have a replaceable cutter, as well as missing 2 of the larger tools on the outside. They didn't even stick with the newest and greatest p technology with all outside accessible tools.

To me the bond is also simular, just meh. Come on Leatherman time to get back to the drawing board.
 
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Are you talking about the Leatherman Curl?
Honestly, I kind of like the direction they're going with these new tools. I think Leatherman is trying to go back to basics, if you will. The Bond is supposed to be an updated take on the original PST (which remains a very popular multitool). I was underwhelmed by the Bond at first, then I surrendered and got one, and replaced the file with a Rebar saw. I like its simplicity. If the Curl were $20 cheaper, I would be tempted to do the same with it. It has my ideal combination of interior tools.

But I agree that the Curl should be cheaper. With 15 tools, it should be priced much closer to the Wingman/Sidekick ($59.99).

I've basically given up hope that Leatherman will add spring loaded pliers to more of their full size tools.
 
Are you talking about the Leatherman Curl?
Honestly, I kind of like the direction they're going with these new tools. I think Leatherman is trying to go back to basics, if you will. The Bond is supposed to be an updated take on the original PST (which remains a very popular multitool). I was underwhelmed by the Bond at first, then I surrendered and got one, and replaced the file with a Rebar saw. I like its simplicity. If the Curl were $20 cheaper, I would be tempted to do the same with it. It has my ideal combination of interior tools.

But I agree that the Curl should be cheaper. With 15 tools, it should be priced much closer to the Wingman/Sidekick ($59.99).

I've basically given up hope that Leatherman will add spring loaded pliers to more of their full size tools.
Sorry, yes curl, edited my post.

I agree with you, looks more in line with wingman or sidekick, but they are marketing as alternative to the wave, I don't see it.
 
I'm a fan of the concept. The Wave/Charge has always had a confused split personality. Is it an outdoors or urban tool? For either use why are we carrying a bunch of stuff we don't need? I think the Curl addresses that by saying that it's an urban tool. Period. No need for carrying stuff you don't need in an urban environment. In addition the tools are not wingman/sidekick level, they're Wave/Charge level tools. It's a different level of market.

That said I do think the pricing is too high. Especially outside of the US where the pricing is a joke for the most part.
 
I agree that the price is too high, but there is another way to look at it.

The Wave is $99.99 USD on Leatherman's website. The Curl is $20 less at $79.99 (for US customers at least), and has basically two fewer tools (the saw and the serrated blade; I don't really consider replaceable wire cutters as a separate tool). $20 less than the Wave, and two tools fewer, comes to $10 off the Wave's price for each tool removed. When you consider that each tool left off probably costs far less than $10 in in steel, that seems like a good deal.

Again, that probably only applies to US customers.
 
I can see a Curl in my future, when the price drops a bit. I'd want to swap out the blade for a 154CM blade and perhaps the pliers for the plus version and perfection! My Charge might not be so happy to have been stripped of parts though. :D
 
I'm the same way. IF the price drops a bit (I'm not holding my breath on that), my plan is to replace the file with a saw from a parts Wave.
 
I never really paid much attention to the wingman because I don't like this style of tool, but looking into what it offers I really don't get how it's still around.
Every implement on that thing looks like it compromises way too much, this new curl has the standard proven impliments leatherman is known for.
Just from the pictures I can see that the Curl is 10× better than a wingman, but I am sure the price will hinder it some.


The bond is a real winner for those who prefer a simpler tool, personally it was just my kind of tool and the price was no consideration.
I'm not one to have expectations of what a tool is required to offer for a priceppont, if I want the tool I buy it.
 
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I could see this making its way onto my Christmas list. It's right at the gift pricepoint that my wife likes to spend, and it seems to have a lot of functional, if a bit basic, tools.

While I don't find the P4 Free bulky at all, I could see rocking something like this on the weekends instead.
 
So far, I love the Curl! It’s like a Leatherman Sidekick/Wingman that grew out of its teenaged gimmicks (like the funky shape, tiny files and rulers) and went to college to become a professional multi tool.

With the pocket clip removed, it’s the most comfortable multi tool that I’ve ever held in the closed position (aside from, perhaps, the Bond and the PST).
 
The way the curl should of been made. In my opinion of course 😁
100% agree with you! But at least it was an easy modification to do, since the Curl uses standard Leatherman Wave/Charge parts and the file is interchangeable with the saw. I had it done about an hour after the Curl was delivered. I had to heat the pivot on the stove to free the pivot screw from the Loctite.

This was the fastest that I've ever voided the warranty on a new Leatherman. 😆
 
The Curl is a nice addition to LM line and it seems to be attracting the attention of a lot of LM fans. It has a nice selection of tools and for the traditional design some folks really like.
But I’ll have to admit that the lack of locking inner tools is a deal breaker for me. I have a Wingman as my first big MT and several times the slip joint action made things difficult and I relegated it to a back up on standby. I then went and bought a Wave and wow! What a difference! My Wave and Signal with locking tools are my favorites party because of the locks but also the extra/ different tools . Imo the best for my needs.
 
The Curl's inner tools have very positive detents, light years ahead of my Sidekick's tools. They're about as close to being locking tools as possible, but they will still fold under enough pressure. I'm not worried about it, but it's perfectly reasonable for that to be a deal-breaker for some folks.

One thing I like about the Bond and Curl non-locking tools is that the tolerances between the tools and springs are tighter; they have to be tighter in order for the springs to engage properly. The Wave's locking system allows the tools to develop a bit of slop or wobble even when the locks are engaged. My Wave's scissors and large flathead both have very slight, but still noticeable wiggle.
 
It feels like they are making small moves in regards to market changes, rather than trying huge moves at higher risk. Overall, they have more total options than some knife companies, certainly I think they have top billing for total options in mulitools as a category, though I may be wrong there. I think they are trying things out that right now make sense. I can see why someone would like the spring loaded pliers, but to me they take up more space than they earn in usefulness. But that's for me. One of the things a company does in this "category" ie, something you might buy a cheap version of, then a more expensive version if it proves useful. they have something all over the price ranges, they have stuff for a pretty wide variety of clients. You can't please all the people all of the time, but they seem to have positioned themselves for the average user as they get a "cheap" one as a gift, think, well that's really useful, and then drop real cash on the better one they want. Which is perfect for most people. Most people will only ever own one or two, and if they can sell just over one tool to a wide range of the population, they are better off than if they sold six to each of the members of BF. I notice that they stopped chasing the steel snobs, which again, makes sense to me. By the time a company that size gets tooled up to produce blades at their level for a flavor of the month steel, they weren't going to buy one anyway.

On topic, if the Curl had been available, and one-handed blades acceptable where I was, I would have bought a Curl instead of a Rebar to replace my Pulse. That tool was made for lighting and sound techs.
 
Sometimes I wish that Leatherman would standardize on a set of pliers and handles (like the Bond) and offer various different tool combinations, i.e., Bond with saw, Bond with scissors, Bond with bit drivers, Curl with saw, Curl with 3D Phillips driver, Curl with serrated blade, Wave with 3D driver, Wave with awl, etc. the way that Victorinox does with their SAKs.

I realize that it's probably too expensive to do that because of the tooling requirements for stamping out handles of many slightly different sizes; it's not as simple as adding another layer to a SAK and using the same pressing machine to press the rivets in place. Leatherman multitools aren't as modular as SAKs.
 
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