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Most of them seem to be bright enough. *Nothing* like a Surefire!.., that's for sure. But you can read by them, find your way through the dark, etc.
I own several types... can't remember the brand names, but one looks like a somewhat swollen mini-mag. Takes three AA batteries, and has two or three (newer ones have three) LEDs. It's about as bright, I guess, as one of the cheap old flashlights you used to get at Kmart or somewhere. Not as bright as a Surefire, but it'll last several *days* of battery life, instead of one hour. Costs about $30.
I also own an EternaLight. Four LEDs, with various settings that provide strobing and reduced power.., to extend battery life. Maybe a little brighter than the flashlight above, but twice the price (not twice the light). I'm not sure about battery life on that one.
And I own a solar power LED you can buy at REI (WWW.REI.COM).. about the same size (or a little larger) as the EternaLight, about the same price as the first LED light mentioned above. It has it's own solar panel as part of it's case. Put it in the sun during the day, and you have three yellow LEDs providing you light that night. I haven't tried to see how long the light lasts, but it's rated at two hours for one day's charging. It's about as bright as the first flashlight above..., maybe a little less.
I own several types... can't remember the brand names, but one looks like a somewhat swollen mini-mag. Takes three AA batteries, and has two or three (newer ones have three) LEDs. It's about as bright, I guess, as one of the cheap old flashlights you used to get at Kmart or somewhere. Not as bright as a Surefire, but it'll last several *days* of battery life, instead of one hour. Costs about $30.
I also own an EternaLight. Four LEDs, with various settings that provide strobing and reduced power.., to extend battery life. Maybe a little brighter than the flashlight above, but twice the price (not twice the light). I'm not sure about battery life on that one.
And I own a solar power LED you can buy at REI (WWW.REI.COM).. about the same size (or a little larger) as the EternaLight, about the same price as the first LED light mentioned above. It has it's own solar panel as part of it's case. Put it in the sun during the day, and you have three yellow LEDs providing you light that night. I haven't tried to see how long the light lasts, but it's rated at two hours for one day's charging. It's about as bright as the first flashlight above..., maybe a little less.
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There is a thread here:
Cool Flashlights and Bulbs http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum32/HTML/000864.html
which also mentions LED lights and has a lot of links.
Here are some links to get you started: http://www.misty.com/~don/index.html
Not fully functional at the moment I type this: http://weba.uwgb.edu/nevermab/led.htm
I can't find it now but someone has pages of actual comparison pictures. I imagine I found it through one of the above links, but have to go now. Perhaps whoever finds it first might post it. I liked the idea of the Solitaire sized versions (AAA) with the higher voltage lithium battery. Also of interest for those jungle expeditions or backwoods cabins, might be the multi LED lights being touted for use in places without electricity, i.e. rural areas in many countries. The theory as I recall was that they used a solar panel to get a charge during the day and then at night would give off the equivalent of a weak light bulb.
P.S. The new white Photon Micro Lights are now more focused and thus more useful. If you buy any make sure you get the new stock. If you have an old one they are good enough to make it worthwhile to update.
BladeForums is selling the Photon Micro Lights http://www.bladeforums.com/store/accessories/photon/
I imagine Spark could verify that BF only has the newest white ones.
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Cool Flashlights and Bulbs http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum32/HTML/000864.html
which also mentions LED lights and has a lot of links.
Here are some links to get you started: http://www.misty.com/~don/index.html
Not fully functional at the moment I type this: http://weba.uwgb.edu/nevermab/led.htm
I can't find it now but someone has pages of actual comparison pictures. I imagine I found it through one of the above links, but have to go now. Perhaps whoever finds it first might post it. I liked the idea of the Solitaire sized versions (AAA) with the higher voltage lithium battery. Also of interest for those jungle expeditions or backwoods cabins, might be the multi LED lights being touted for use in places without electricity, i.e. rural areas in many countries. The theory as I recall was that they used a solar panel to get a charge during the day and then at night would give off the equivalent of a weak light bulb.
P.S. The new white Photon Micro Lights are now more focused and thus more useful. If you buy any make sure you get the new stock. If you have an old one they are good enough to make it worthwhile to update.
BladeForums is selling the Photon Micro Lights http://www.bladeforums.com/store/accessories/photon/
I imagine Spark could verify that BF only has the newest white ones.
[This message has been edited by Donald (edited 02 December 1999).]
I have both the Eterna lite and a PAL light. I'll probably use these exclusively from now on.
A few months ago I ran A program for California Fish and Game and brought the Eternalite. I used it at night to read, to work on my gear and all the sundry stuff. After a week it was still working great. I put it in my pack.
A week later, at home, I opened the pack and the thing was still on! SOmething in the pack was hitting the switch. I still have the original batteries in it and they show no sign of dimming. Now I'm feeling guilty!
The PAL light is a single LED and I have both red and white LED versions. It is a little larger than a 9v battery and sends a heck of a beam, It has three modes.
The long and short of it is that I'm sold on these things.
Ron
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A few months ago I ran A program for California Fish and Game and brought the Eternalite. I used it at night to read, to work on my gear and all the sundry stuff. After a week it was still working great. I put it in my pack.
A week later, at home, I opened the pack and the thing was still on! SOmething in the pack was hitting the switch. I still have the original batteries in it and they show no sign of dimming. Now I'm feeling guilty!
The PAL light is a single LED and I have both red and white LED versions. It is a little larger than a 9v battery and sends a heck of a beam, It has three modes.
The long and short of it is that I'm sold on these things.
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Lights in general are an interesting topic for camping. My own feelings are:
I like one very bright light, though I rarely need this much light, and it destroys night vision. A Surefire is an okay option, but the UKE 2L is lighter, almost as bright, and batteries last quite a bit longer.
My next light is going down trails, putting together equipment in the dark, etc., light. I want this light to last a while, since I don't want to lug around extra batteries. I also want it to be small, since I'll be carrying it everywhere at night. I usually use a Maglite 2-AA for this, but it's heavier than need be, and really I want more light than this thing puts out. One of the high-power 2-AA lights from UKE or Pelican might work nicely here. If the Eternalite or PAL light can throw this much light, they'd both be a wonderful choice, due to battery life and bulb life. Exactly how do the Eternalite and PAL lite in their brightest modes compare to a 2-AA maglite? I'm sceptical about the PAL light being bright enough, but eternalite, maybe.
I like to have one other light when I'm camping with my family. Typically I hang it in the tent and leave it on as soon as it gets dark, so it's easy for anyone to find their way back to the tent. Also use it as a reading light, etc. For longer trips, this light will be bright enough for all in-tent uses, so I can save the batteries on my main trail light. The photon lights work really well in this role, they're small and a battery lasts forever. The PAL light in its dim mode might be good here, too.
Joe
I like one very bright light, though I rarely need this much light, and it destroys night vision. A Surefire is an okay option, but the UKE 2L is lighter, almost as bright, and batteries last quite a bit longer.
My next light is going down trails, putting together equipment in the dark, etc., light. I want this light to last a while, since I don't want to lug around extra batteries. I also want it to be small, since I'll be carrying it everywhere at night. I usually use a Maglite 2-AA for this, but it's heavier than need be, and really I want more light than this thing puts out. One of the high-power 2-AA lights from UKE or Pelican might work nicely here. If the Eternalite or PAL light can throw this much light, they'd both be a wonderful choice, due to battery life and bulb life. Exactly how do the Eternalite and PAL lite in their brightest modes compare to a 2-AA maglite? I'm sceptical about the PAL light being bright enough, but eternalite, maybe.
I like to have one other light when I'm camping with my family. Typically I hang it in the tent and leave it on as soon as it gets dark, so it's easy for anyone to find their way back to the tent. Also use it as a reading light, etc. For longer trips, this light will be bright enough for all in-tent uses, so I can save the batteries on my main trail light. The photon lights work really well in this role, they're small and a battery lasts forever. The PAL light in its dim mode might be good here, too.
Joe
The 14 bucks or so you will spend for an ASP light is money well spent. I used one of these contstantly on the last jungle trip and had no failure. Lifetime guarantee that works also. A buddy of mine washed and dried his in the laundry and they sent him a new one, no questions asked. They also warranty the batteries for life.
I think Newt Livesay is about to start dealing in them so you can contact him if you want to pick one up. I'm completely sold on them - Jeff
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I think Newt Livesay is about to start dealing in them so you can contact him if you want to pick one up. I'm completely sold on them - Jeff
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www.glow-bug.com has an excellent faq on LEDs and LED flashlights.
The Trek 7 has seven diodes and uses 3C cell batteries it should be bright enough.
I bought a LEDTronics white LED bulb w/PR-Base (gave it to Ralf I have a red one left and ordered a Trek 30 3AA for it) and tried the battery burntime. I used a 3D cell Maglite and Energizer batteries. It lasted 2 1/2 weeks before I got tired of the exercise and shut it off. When I placed fresh batteries it was definitely brighter but not much brighter. LED's strong suit: Long battery runtime.
The one thing I noticed about LED lights is that no matter how bright they are they're not very good for trail use. You can see what is directly in front of you but beyond that they don't compare to incandescents. LEDs make great reading lights. The light seems to be sharper.
I have two Tekna Splashlights that use a single 3V DL123A lithium battery. I'm going to have a guy make some white diode bulbs for me if he'll return my email. That is is the perfect combo for me. Lithiums and diodes
Ron's comments made me look at the PAL closer and they use a 9V battery. Sears sells 9V Lithium batteries for $6.99. I'll think I'll try that combo.
I'll second the motion for UK 2L. I had one and it disappeard almost as soon as I got it. While I had it it was a great light. I had a Pelican Stealthlite and loaned it to my brother. Haven't seen it since. A local Radio Shack guy also sells his own stuff and has the Stealthlites and Sabrelites for $19.99. Can't beat that on the internet. I'll have to pick up another one.
If the price of a UKE 2L and its lithium batteries seems a bit much I suggest a 2AA/4AA flashlight for general camp use. Among the ones I own or have tried are Pelican StealthLite, MityLite Magnum, VersaBrite, VersaBrite II, Mini-Maglite; Streamlight ProPolymer 2AA and UKE 4AA. The UKE 2L and 4AA use the same lamp assembly. Any of these flashlights would be good for general camp use. Except maybe the VersaBrites.
The AAA flashlights are great for occasional use but they seem to dim then die too fast for general camp use.
Also, C cell flashlights are small yet bright. I gave a Pelican PeliLite to my sister and she loves it. The 3C SabreLite is slightly brighter than a Stealthlite. Other 3C lights are Underwater Kinetics UK 300, Streamlight ProPolymer 3C. Also a Maglite with a Carly Lamp bulb is an excellent choice.
If money is no object and you want the brightest portable light possible, get a MaxaBeam or PlasmaBeam spotlight. Either should illuminate a bear nicely
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The Trek 7 has seven diodes and uses 3C cell batteries it should be bright enough.
I bought a LEDTronics white LED bulb w/PR-Base (gave it to Ralf I have a red one left and ordered a Trek 30 3AA for it) and tried the battery burntime. I used a 3D cell Maglite and Energizer batteries. It lasted 2 1/2 weeks before I got tired of the exercise and shut it off. When I placed fresh batteries it was definitely brighter but not much brighter. LED's strong suit: Long battery runtime.
The one thing I noticed about LED lights is that no matter how bright they are they're not very good for trail use. You can see what is directly in front of you but beyond that they don't compare to incandescents. LEDs make great reading lights. The light seems to be sharper.
I have two Tekna Splashlights that use a single 3V DL123A lithium battery. I'm going to have a guy make some white diode bulbs for me if he'll return my email. That is is the perfect combo for me. Lithiums and diodes
I'll second the motion for UK 2L. I had one and it disappeard almost as soon as I got it. While I had it it was a great light. I had a Pelican Stealthlite and loaned it to my brother. Haven't seen it since. A local Radio Shack guy also sells his own stuff and has the Stealthlites and Sabrelites for $19.99. Can't beat that on the internet. I'll have to pick up another one.
If the price of a UKE 2L and its lithium batteries seems a bit much I suggest a 2AA/4AA flashlight for general camp use. Among the ones I own or have tried are Pelican StealthLite, MityLite Magnum, VersaBrite, VersaBrite II, Mini-Maglite; Streamlight ProPolymer 2AA and UKE 4AA. The UKE 2L and 4AA use the same lamp assembly. Any of these flashlights would be good for general camp use. Except maybe the VersaBrites.
The AAA flashlights are great for occasional use but they seem to dim then die too fast for general camp use.
Also, C cell flashlights are small yet bright. I gave a Pelican PeliLite to my sister and she loves it. The 3C SabreLite is slightly brighter than a Stealthlite. Other 3C lights are Underwater Kinetics UK 300, Streamlight ProPolymer 3C. Also a Maglite with a Carly Lamp bulb is an excellent choice.
If money is no object and you want the brightest portable light possible, get a MaxaBeam or PlasmaBeam spotlight. Either should illuminate a bear nicely
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[This message has been edited by David Williams (edited 02 December 1999).]
While they will never completely take the place of all my other flashlights, nothign beats the ease of carry of a Photon Microlight. I carry an orange in my watch pocket, a red attached to my SAK and a White on my car/house keys. They provide amazing light for thier size, much more than the Solitare I used to carry. My wife carries several on her also.
Over the weekend, I found a new LED flashlight..., called the "LightWave". I went ahead and bought one from Action Electronics. Supposedly, it has a solid state circuitry that enhances battery life..., and they claim 5 weeks (or more) of light, with enough light after 5 weeks to read a newspaper, with the light a few inches away. That's with 4 LED bulbs, with 3 AA batteries. We'll see what kind of performance it provides later this week.
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copfish,
Here are some websites:
www.glow-bug.com
www.ndsproducts.com
www.ledlite.com
www.jademountain.com
www.hartaviation.com
www.hdssystems.com
www.hollysolar.com
www.ledlights.com
http://www.stpaulmercantile.com/deltalit.htm
www.tek-tite.com
www.americaworks.net (now at www.theledlight.com )
www.msenightvision.com
www.techass.com
www.ledtronics.com
The Glow-bug site has a nice faq with a couple of links to other LED info.
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Here are some websites:
www.glow-bug.com
www.ndsproducts.com
www.ledlite.com
www.jademountain.com
www.hartaviation.com
www.hdssystems.com
www.hollysolar.com
www.ledlights.com
http://www.stpaulmercantile.com/deltalit.htm
www.tek-tite.com
www.americaworks.net (now at www.theledlight.com )
www.msenightvision.com
www.techass.com
www.ledtronics.com
The Glow-bug site has a nice faq with a couple of links to other LED info.
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"A knifeless man is a lifeless man"
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This has been a great post full of information on flashlights and physics. There are many knowledgable people on this forum. I have some questions that are of interst to me if someone with expertise could answer:
1. Who makes the Trek 7 light? Is it powerful enough to "throw" a beam with its seven LEDs and 3 C cells? Is this actually an issue light to the Navy Seals?
2. Does anyone have any experience with the Trek 2, 2 LED 3AA flashlight? Is it comparable to say a 2 AA mini-mag?
3. Anyone know the run time with a UKE 2 cell lithium?
4. Does one select a C or D cell flashlight(2 cell)for a more bright and powerful beam over say a 4 AA? Are you giving up any features by selecting a 4 AA for its compactness vs a 2 cell C or D?
5. What are the opinions on the best compromise flashlight(LED or Standard)in the size range of the UDE 2 AA, Princeton 2AA,etc.?Criteria would be a balance of bulb life, adequate "throw" for general use, battery longevity, brightness and water resistance. Cost would not be a factor for initial purchase but would be considered for buying new components. 3or4 AA could be considered if in a compact or stacked package
6. Do the bulbs that are integrated into the reflector produce a brighter more true beam over the bulb only variety?
Thanking everyone for your responses!
Dave
1. Who makes the Trek 7 light? Is it powerful enough to "throw" a beam with its seven LEDs and 3 C cells? Is this actually an issue light to the Navy Seals?
2. Does anyone have any experience with the Trek 2, 2 LED 3AA flashlight? Is it comparable to say a 2 AA mini-mag?
3. Anyone know the run time with a UKE 2 cell lithium?
4. Does one select a C or D cell flashlight(2 cell)for a more bright and powerful beam over say a 4 AA? Are you giving up any features by selecting a 4 AA for its compactness vs a 2 cell C or D?
5. What are the opinions on the best compromise flashlight(LED or Standard)in the size range of the UDE 2 AA, Princeton 2AA,etc.?Criteria would be a balance of bulb life, adequate "throw" for general use, battery longevity, brightness and water resistance. Cost would not be a factor for initial purchase but would be considered for buying new components. 3or4 AA could be considered if in a compact or stacked package
6. Do the bulbs that are integrated into the reflector produce a brighter more true beam over the bulb only variety?
Thanking everyone for your responses!
Dave
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"4. Does one select a C or D cell flashlight(2 cell)for a more bright and powerful beam over say a 4 AA? Are you giving up any features by selecting a 4 AA for its compactness vs a 2 cell C or D?"
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4AA could be brighter that a two cell c or d, However, unless there is some sort of series-parallel battery system (ala eveready double barrel), your battery life is much shorter. If you want a 2 or 4 AA quantity or light, I'd definetly reccomend going with an led system. I have one led light (eternalight) and I think it really does compare well against to a 2 cell c/d.
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"5. What are the opinions on the best compromise flashlight(LED or Standard)in the size range of the UDE 2 AA, Princeton 2AA,etc.? Criteria would be a balance of bulb life, .."
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My feeling is in that small size, since cost is not an object, go with the LED, get one with 3 or more led's. Long battery life, etc.
I have a flashlight review page that might be helpful:
http://www.mindspring.com./~dave.heisler
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4AA could be brighter that a two cell c or d, However, unless there is some sort of series-parallel battery system (ala eveready double barrel), your battery life is much shorter. If you want a 2 or 4 AA quantity or light, I'd definetly reccomend going with an led system. I have one led light (eternalight) and I think it really does compare well against to a 2 cell c/d.
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"5. What are the opinions on the best compromise flashlight(LED or Standard)in the size range of the UDE 2 AA, Princeton 2AA,etc.? Criteria would be a balance of bulb life, .."
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My feeling is in that small size, since cost is not an object, go with the LED, get one with 3 or more led's. Long battery life, etc.
I have a flashlight review page that might be helpful:
http://www.mindspring.com./~dave.heisler
DaveH
Dave,
I have several Trek 2's..., good flashlight. Relatively tough. Light intensity..., I wouldn't compare it to a mini-mag... it's light is more diffused, and not as intense.
I have a couple Trek 3's.., which are also very nice, and a bit brighter, though probably not as bright as a mini-mag.
I've got an Eterna-light... pretty nice, with 4 LEDs.. I think it approaches a mini-mag in intensity, though it's still more diffused than the mini-mag.
I just got a LightWave... 4 LEDs, 3AA, pretty bright, and it's rated either for 50 hours (I guess that's full intensity, or 5 weeks
, though that's for minimal light, but good enough, supposedly, to hold a few inches from a newspaper and still be able to read it.
And I have a Trek 7 on order, along with a PAL..., I'll see how it compares to a mini-mag, plus the above flashlights....
I have several Trek 2's..., good flashlight. Relatively tough. Light intensity..., I wouldn't compare it to a mini-mag... it's light is more diffused, and not as intense.
I have a couple Trek 3's.., which are also very nice, and a bit brighter, though probably not as bright as a mini-mag.
I've got an Eterna-light... pretty nice, with 4 LEDs.. I think it approaches a mini-mag in intensity, though it's still more diffused than the mini-mag.
I just got a LightWave... 4 LEDs, 3AA, pretty bright, and it's rated either for 50 hours (I guess that's full intensity, or 5 weeks
And I have a Trek 7 on order, along with a PAL..., I'll see how it compares to a mini-mag, plus the above flashlights....
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DDS,
- I assume www.tek-tite.com is the maker. LED's today cannot throw a beam as far as an incandescent. A 3C LED does not compare to a 3C Xenon. I wouldn't worry about the Navy Seal reference. Just chalk it up to marketing hype.
- I don't have a Trek 2 but my experience with LED's is they are comparable for the short distance. Incandescents are brighter and still have respectable battery burn times.
- Factory specs list it at 3-4 hours. The variables are battery quality, temperature and usage type (continuous or intermitant).
- The most versatile lights I have are 2AAA, 2AA, 4AA and 3C. I have several 2AA flashlights: Tec-20, Mitylite Magnum, Mini-Mag and ProPolymer 2AA. I have a Stealthlite and Tec-40. For 3C I have a Mag-Lite and Sabrelite. Anything larger is brighter but they usually don't get taken along for the ride.
- My favorites are the Mini-Mag 2AA with a Brinkmann Xenon bulb, the Pelican Stealthlite and Sabrelite. For car use and around the house I have a Mag-lite 3D with a Carley Lamp Xenon Star bulb and Energizers or Duracell Ultras.
- Integrated bulb/reflectors appear to be better beam quality but are not as versatile as a focusing beam. There are no holes in the beam of integrated assemblies.
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If you don't have a good flashlight now I recomend a quality 4AA or 3C flashlight before you get any LED flashlight. Unless you get a Photon, Stylus or PAL. Don't bother with a LEDTronics KeyLED. They're cheap enough you could get a quality light and either of these LED lights.
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[This message has been edited by David Williams (edited 12 December 1999).]
I wanted to thank DaveH, Kirk D, and David for taking the time to answer my questions. After much thought and research reading links and these posts, I have decided on the following lights to purchase(they will be used for various specific purposes):
- Pelican Stealthlite( I really like the switch function)
- Maglite 2 D cell with Xenon bulb
- Streamlight 2AA Propolymer
- PAL LED light
Thanks again guys for all the feedback, it was a great help.
Dave
- Pelican Stealthlite( I really like the switch function)
- Maglite 2 D cell with Xenon bulb
- Streamlight 2AA Propolymer
- PAL LED light
Thanks again guys for all the feedback, it was a great help.
Dave
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Two questions and an semi-unrelated answer.
Is it true that the bulb assembly for the UK 4AA and 2L are the same? Based on the same basic battery voltage, this would make sense, but then what is the advantage of buying the 2L, when in some (many?) cases, AA's are easier to find and most likely less expensive than lithiums?
There was an older "Diver" website review that listed the battery life of the 2L at 270 minutes. I have a copy of it somewhere, but cannot find the URL at this point, sorry. HTH, though.
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Is it true that the bulb assembly for the UK 4AA and 2L are the same? Based on the same basic battery voltage, this would make sense, but then what is the advantage of buying the 2L, when in some (many?) cases, AA's are easier to find and most likely less expensive than lithiums?
There was an older "Diver" website review that listed the battery life of the 2L at 270 minutes. I have a copy of it somewhere, but cannot find the URL at this point, sorry. HTH, though.
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Check out the Streamlight Syclone light. It has both a regular and a LED bulbs that you can select on the fly. The light is water proof and has a belt clip that will free your hands for other task. The head pivots and the light can stand on its own to shine at any angle hand free. You can get the model with a spare battery pack so you can change the battery in the dark in less than 5 seconds. It comes in camo and the LED bulb will shine for about 100 hours on four AA alkaline batteries. The LED bulb is amber and it is really bright. I am not associate with Streamlight in any way, shape or form.
Streamlight is coming out with a new line of poly/plastic flashlights along the lines of UKE. I have seen a 2AA,4AA and 3C also LED line of lights. I was habituating my local purveyor of guns,gear and knives, and the Rep for the company stopped in with samples. The 4AA was equal in brightness to my UKE 4AA , but has a tail end button switch like Surefire and other regular Streamlight lights. The Rep indicated that L.L. Beans was going to carry the line.
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The 2Ls are smaller and lighter. If you don't care about that, I'd stick with the 4-AA also.