leek grind?

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Magnum22

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hey gents, i'm a spyderco guy who's about to fall deep into a pit of leeks. i'm already in love with about three, don't know which to get first. i was really caught by the composition D2, then i could no longer ignore the g-10 and standard models.

question: are they hollow or flat ground?
 
Flat. S30V is much harder to sharpen as I've recently discovered. Not sure I like it as much as other stainless I've owned. i do like the G10 scales though. Really practical, esp. with gloves, wet cold hands etc.
 
The CPM-D2 and ZDP189 Leeks are flat. The S30V, 440A and 13C26 are hollow ground.
 
zdp189 leek? where?

i'm not too crazy about s30v myself, but that finish is sick and the s30v/g-10 thing has been done by many other knives, but not at this price. i'll probably skip that one.
 
Magnum22 said:
zdp189 leek? where?
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They were a limited run. It would probably hard to find one, but they do show up from time to time on evilbay. I think there were 1000 made.
Great knife if you can pick one up. It holds it's edge forever.
 
just ordered the standard model. $35.99 shipped from smkw. they have discounts on lots of kershaws, if anyone didn't know. leeks, chives, outcast, speed bump....
 
All the Leeks I have are hollow ground. ZDP, s30c (glossy g-10 model), and Damascus. I have a composite blade coming to.. we'll see how that's ground.
 
dedguy said:
All the Leeks I have are hollow ground. ZDP, s30c (glossy g-10 model), and Damascus. I have a composite blade coming to.. we'll see how that's ground.
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Not correct! My TiZDP is flat ground. By all means get the TiZDP leek. It's the top of the line leek. You'll have to check, normally ebay has some but get ready to loose about $160.00.
 
Maybe some where flat ground and some where hollow. Mine is definitly hollow. I have it in front of me right now.
 
mikemock said:
What's the difference between flat vs. hollow ground?
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Look at the left side of this diagram:

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I find that flat grinds work better on cutting fruit and the like, although on a blade as thin as the Leek it's not that big a difference.
 
From what I can tell my 1660 is flat.

It would seem to me that hollow ground is difficult to maintain.

If so, why would a manufacturer put a hollow grind on a blade that the user would grind flat anyway? I would assume that the manufacturer's grind would be what is optimal for that particular blade shape and material.

What are the advantages of the different types of grind?
 
mikemock said:
From what I can tell my 1660 is flat.

It would seem to me that hollow ground is difficult to maintain.

If so, why would a manufacturer put a hollow grind on a blade that the user would grind flat anyway? I would assume that the manufacturer's grind would be what is optimal for that particular blade shape and material.

What are the advantages of the different types of grind?
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the grind of the main bevel is what everyone is referring to. normally the secondary bevel (real edge of the blade and the part that gets sharpened) is flat.

different grinds basically sacrifice strength for ease of cutting through objects that dont move out of the way. (straight razors can be hollow ground, katanas are convex ground, european swords are commonly saber ground. single bevel knives are very easy to sharpen but take longer because you have to remove a lot of metal.

-matt
 
There's also chisel ground, which you don't see too often which is a single flat grind on one side of the blade. I have a couple Tony Lopes folders like that.
 
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