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Legal to Carry your knife?
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I do not live in the US but knife laws in Europe are getting nuts too.
Lets say you have a locking 3" folder with thumb stud, you can carry relatively legal in Sweden. If you go to Oslo in Norway it gets confiscated. If you visit Denmark or UK it is not allowed because it locks, in Germany it is not allowed because of the thumb stud and so on.
I have an example why these knife laws are nuts. Yesterday some schmuck tried to rob a 7-eleven type stor with a rusty Mora knife. The 18 year old check out girl totally clobberded the robber. The robber did not have a 300 dollar limited edition special this and that knife. It would be interesting to see some kind of statistics on what kind of knives (make and model) bad guys use. The Swedish foreign minister was killed with a 2 bucks Mora clone, not with a polymer spec ops silent killer super knife.
How do carpenters and such work in NC if they can not use knives? Have you ever tried cutting a plastic sheath or cardboard boxes with a fork or a spoon?
Lets say you have a locking 3" folder with thumb stud, you can carry relatively legal in Sweden. If you go to Oslo in Norway it gets confiscated. If you visit Denmark or UK it is not allowed because it locks, in Germany it is not allowed because of the thumb stud and so on.
I have an example why these knife laws are nuts. Yesterday some schmuck tried to rob a 7-eleven type stor with a rusty Mora knife. The 18 year old check out girl totally clobberded the robber. The robber did not have a 300 dollar limited edition special this and that knife. It would be interesting to see some kind of statistics on what kind of knives (make and model) bad guys use. The Swedish foreign minister was killed with a 2 bucks Mora clone, not with a polymer spec ops silent killer super knife.
How do carpenters and such work in NC if they can not use knives? Have you ever tried cutting a plastic sheath or cardboard boxes with a fork or a spoon?
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I responded to support those in SC. I live in KY, but go to SC every couple of years.
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Most of the bad stuff I hear about is done with box-cutters and cheap kitchen knives.
Box cutters are very fast one handed opening and lock up as well. I see no difference between those and switch blade/gravity knives.
I would be more wary of an attacker weilding a box cutter than a regular knife. Chances are the box cutter will be sharp, but a regular knife may not be due their lack of sharpening or lack of sharpening skill.
I would be more wary of an attacker weilding a box cutter than a regular knife. Chances are the box cutter will be sharp, but a regular knife may not be due their lack of sharpening or lack of sharpening skill.
I wish the AKTI would come to NY and deal with the gravity knife issue and get that cleared up. Not that it is much of an issue for most but I would hate to lose a knife simply based on the fact that it can be flicked open.
I agree with "RedEdge", AKTI needs to tackle the New York knife laws. In the 5 boroughs of New York City any size knife that has a liner lock is considered a gravity knife and therefore you can be arrested for carry an illegal "lethal weapon". This has got to be the most egregious abuse of power I have ever seen.
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I wish the AKTI would come to NY and deal with the gravity knife issue and get that cleared up. Not that it is much of an issue for most but I would hate to lose a knife simply based on the fact that it can be flicked open.
I am sorry, the last three states that will change, if ever, are California, New York, and Mass.
The citizens have to change the way the legislators think, and those three states have allowed their legislators to believe that the people are sheep to be sheared and led.
Ronin21, there are a few liner locks that can not be flicked open and are therefore not gravity knives, most can be flicked so therefore are gravity knives but the law does not forbid locking knives that can not be flicked open. They are a bit carried away with enforcement for sure....
I sure wish people would stop saying that a knife that can be flicked open is a "Gravity Knife".
It demonstrates that you don't know what a real gravity knife actually is.
And by the way, a real gravity knife is not ever flicked open. They are merely held and released...that's right, a real gravity knife is also locked closed. How do you flick open a locked knife?
It demonstrates that you don't know what a real gravity knife actually is.
And by the way, a real gravity knife is not ever flicked open. They are merely held and released...that's right, a real gravity knife is also locked closed. How do you flick open a locked knife?
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Mr. Russell,
I'm puzzled by your comment. California's knife laws are generally very favorable to knife carry (as least as far as folders are concerned), no blade size restrictions, or concealed vs open carry rules. Further, the Penal Code was changed a few years back due to lobbying to make clear that most one-handed openers are clearly not prohibited under the definition of switchblades.
Best regards,
Argyll
joe-bob, I totally agree with you on what is a REAL gravity knife and what isn't, but the law and how it is interperted doesn't. In NY, the first state to ban switchblades and gravity knives, they used the word "released" from the handle to try and explain what you said. The Federal LAw was passed a year after and has a worst definition that could include any knife that can be flicked open. The two laws I just stated clearly were written to ban true gravity knives, and that is how they were enforced for years, until some officers started to realize the wording allowed for enforcement against any knife that could be flicked open, and the courts have allowed it, so therefore it is the law now in those locals. Not fair, true , but it is the real world today....
Amen.
What's really needed is a total house cleaning, because even when we get a good person elected to office, they are either beaten down or infected by the old guard politicians. In NY, nothing gets done unless Sheldon Silver or Joe Bruno say so, regardless of who's governor (which is another story altogether). The people work for the government here, not the other way around, which was what was originally intended. You know, that "public servant" thing.
and continuing on that i think a house cleaning nation wide needs to happen, "weapons" laws need to be consistent (the most recent thing that is messed up is the gun paints that were released to give an f u to bloomberg, im sorry if paint a gun red 99% of LEOs are going to look at it and say "training gun")Amen.
What's really needed is a total house cleaning, because even when we get a good person elected to office, they are either beaten down or infected by the old guard politicians. In NY, nothing gets done unless Sheldon Silver or Joe Bruno say so, regardless of who's governor (which is another story altogether). The people work for the government here, not the other way around, which was what was originally intended. You know, that "public servant" thing.
but it is really annoying to me that one thing in a state that is legal and what you need to do (things like open carry) are illegal in other states.
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Yes, Argyll, that is true and every two years the AKTI has to go back and spend another 10, 15 or 20,000 dollars with the lawyers and lobbists and keep it that way. The money to do this is 90+ from the pockets of the knife companies, how long before they give up that 20% of the American public and stop the drain. The AKTI needs a lot more support (membership) from you and other knife lovers.
A. G.