Lets talk about Fiddleback Heat Treat

whitty

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So a while back I asked Andy to make me a Competition Cutter. I wanted one because we have every intent of competing in future regional, and hopefully, the Interntational Blade Sport Competition at Blade Show.

Since we have gotten the cutter we have been practicing a good bit. Mostly cutting water bottles, golf balls, tennis balls, straws and now tonight douglas fir 2X4s. It has been a lot of fun. I will add the videos after this post so you guys can see some of what we have been up to.

Our times are getting better and we certainly enjoy some beers and have a good time while practicing.

The reason I tell you all of this is to get to the Heat treat and how the knife is holding up. After a ton of practice with golf balls, tennis balls, water bottles and 2X4's we have not found 1 damn part of the knife that needs to be touched up. Not one nick!

Then tonight it happened. While practicing on a 2X4 the final cut went through the board and the top of the knife hit the parking lot pavement hard. It hit it so hard that there was a small spark. I can tell you I expected the worst. I would have expected the top half inch or more of the tip of the knife to be gone. I was wrong. There is a small section that has what would be considered a nick on a small folder. We all sat there stunned.

So with all this said, I have no idea what the heat treat process at Fiddleback is but I can tell you it is impressive as hell! For those new to Fiddlebacks, buy with confidence!

Here is a pic of the tip, see if you can find the nick:

https://flic.kr/p/yWdzPA https://www.flickr.com/photos/57703464@N02/

Whitty
 
This video is awesome when you turn the sound up!
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Great testimonial to the durability of Andy's O1. In my limited experience, Andy's O1 is INCREDIBLY tough and has relatively good edge retention. Again, my experience is limited, but at this point it is my favorite steel for a fixed blade hard-use bushcraft knife.

I started a thread on the differences between Fiddleback O1 and A2 and got a lot of responses along the lines of "they are both great." I agree with that sentiment, but would be really interested in knowing the Rockwell hardness of both. Also, I think it would be interesting to hear about folks experience with the toughness and edge retention of both steels.

BTW, your Competition Cutter is really cool!
 
Very impressive!!! Just goes to prove what a fantastic blade steel O1 is and the excellent quality of FB's.

Great post :thumbup:
 
I have been waiting with baited breath to see how this knife was doing for y'all. I have had a theory since I first started making knives that 01 could compete with any of the super steels in this competition. We'll have to wait and see. But these posts definitely make me feel good about it. Man, thanks for everything Wit.

We take 01 and A2 both to 59-60 RC.
 
Nice one Whitty, looks like you guys are having fun! The Fiddleback knives do have an impressive heat treat.

That looks fun! When will we start seeing these on fiddleback Friday's? :)

About four or five year ago :)


:thumbup: Thanks Whitty! Is that about a 10" blade?

Close guess man. 15-inches overall with a 5.5-inch handle according to the specs in the intro thread. So about a 9.5 inch blade.
 
Brian's answer was technically correct except he should have stated 9 1/2 inches of pure bad assery!
 
I have been waiting with baited breath to see how this knife was doing for y'all. I have had a theory since I first started making knives that 01 could compete with any of the super steels in this competition. We'll have to wait and see. But these posts definitely make me feel good about it. Man, thanks for everything Wit.

We take 01 and A2 both to 59-60 RC.

Should have let you know sooner. We have beaten the hell out of this thing, and as a group who do this twice a month, we are all blown away by how well it is holding up! We have a few other knives that I will not name, that have gotten major nicks and one that even broke! They all were subject to the same abuse as yours! I don't know how far we will get with it this year, but if we do not qualify for international, please do not blame the tool but the user! Right now Kevin and I are competing the best. I have to get more consistent on water bottles and fine cuts and Kevin has to get better on the chopping. We are going to set up a full course upstairs in our new shop and we will be able to really tell how well we can compete. It will be a lot better than working in our back parking lot with bar stools and trash cans!

Just an FYI: Anyone near Salisbury, NC area that would like to come join us one Thursday night, let me know!
 
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