Let's Talk Tomahawks....

Andy Prisco

Andy Prisco

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As of the AKTA 2000 contest and some comments here on the forum, my dreams (when I sleep
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) have been filled with images of a Busse Combat Tomahawk.

While Jerry would not agree with me, I think he is a pretty accomplished thrower, though he does not like to talk about it...he has a wonderful understanding of design mechanics, production requirements, and overall performance functionality.

BTW, Jennifer Busse has even been known to toss a knife or two...
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In any event, this is a very early in the game idea...however, I would love to get a feel from the members about the potential of a functional Tomahawk which can be used for work, thrown for fun, and also be a combat tool when necessary.

Share ANY thoughts you have on the subject here....

Before we begin, let me say that there is no prototype in place, no production plans at the moment, and no assurance that this will become a reality. What we can do here however is dream, talk, report, and perhaps ultimately, make one real.

Let's hear it!!!!!!!!



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Forgot something...as far as design is concerned.

The "Hawk" would not be a cast or forged head on a wooden pole...it would be an all steel project...Busse Tough
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, Busse Looking
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, and of course, Busse Cool
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Andy Prisco, Manager
Sharper Instinct, LLC
Phone: 1-201-493-2469
Orders-Toll Free: 1-877-557-5200
Fax: 1-201-493-2039
Visa/Mastercard Accepted

Authorized Dealers:
Busse Combat Knives
Big East Bows
Jersey Rigg Lures

Professional Svcs:
Corporate Training
Stress Mgmt.
Shooting Instruction

Busse Combat Custom Variant HeadQuarters
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Sharper Instinct Main Website
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[This message has been edited by Andy Prisco (edited 10-18-2000).]
 
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Sorry... I got a little excited there. Kinda like Kyle on Southpark, I'm prone to barfing when my heart gets going...

Anyway, allow me to chime in with my comments... YES! YES! YES!

I would, however, be interested in the 'hawk only if it was more oriented towards a utilitarian purpose. I'm more of an outdoorsman than a fighter; more of a chopper than a chucker. As such, I would prefer to see a slightly broader head than the typical hawk, perhaps with a bit more weight behind it. Oh - and a spike on it. Yeah! a big, gnarly spike!
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Andy, how about something small like John Greco's Manhattaxe (8" OA)? Pic at knifeart.com
 
If Busse were to make something airborne I'd like to see a sleek slim knife. Something a guy could carry about 3 or 4 of concealed and zing them in a target about 2 to 3 inches deep. Something with a barbed tip so that if you had to use them for self defense they would hurt even more on the way out. And just a nice thrower would be cool too.
 
If it is geared more for utility I would buy one!

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"KEEP IT SIMPLE"

"Lead, follow, or get out of the way"
 
Great topic! I like tomahawks, and the idea of an all metal Busse tuff tomahawk sounds outstanding. Spike on the back, Hell Yes.
How about a simple leather sheath so it can be carried around. Knurled handle grip.

But Busse already has a lot of pokers in the fire. And there is a fair amount of good tomahawks already out there for a fair price.
Here's to wishing.
 
If it is anything like the one Greg posted a pic of back a few months, count me in
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Cool Andy! I love tomahawks. Especially the combat style.

I've been bugging Jeff over at Cutlery Shoppe to reintroduce those magnum-sized Viet Nam 'hawks he carried for awhile, but I'd take an all metal Busse tomahawk anytime, whatever usage it's geared for.

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"When loss and gain are alike to one, that is real gain.."
 
That's one of only three INFI hatchets ever made!!! Cool that you still had the pic.

That particular design sports the original SHII straight handle, talon holes, approx. 3" razor sharp cutting edge, and a rear spike.

Jerry likes spikes!!!!!!!!
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Phone: 1-201-493-2469
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Authorized Dealers:
Busse Combat Knives
Big East Bows
Jersey Rigg Lures

Professional Svcs:
Corporate Training
Stress Mgmt.
Shooting Instruction

Busse Combat Custom Variant HeadQuarters
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[This message has been edited by Andy Prisco (edited 10-18-2000).]
 
Andy,
I actually doctored the picture a little bit to make the hatchet look like a tomahawk.
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-Greg
 
Andy, that sounds like just about the best idea i've heard in a long time......

I'd be much more interested in a utility type than a fighter. Something made for chopping, so all those "I don't buy big knives because axes chop better" people can go...... well, i'm sure you see my point.

And while i'm on the subject, why have a rear spike? I mean, i can't see how a spike would do all that much more damage to someone than the flat head on the back of my hatchet. It just adds inconvenience, and means you have to be careful of both ends (yes, i know you have to be careful of both ends anyway, i once hit someone in the head with the back of an axe (Accident, they were standing RIGHT behind me.))

But in general, i would buy any busse Axe that came out, especially if it was a utility. (and a decent price would help...)

James

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Ok, would like something along the lines of a 3 inch cutting edge on the head, rear spike or hammer head and a 19 - 20 inch haft. Would prefer a wooden haft as opposed to a steel one, as this hawk would be used in all sorts of weather. Adding some sort of micarta slabs would be useful, but could be avoided if wood hafts were used.

If Jerry can come up with something that is tough, well balanced, practical at a good price point, I would certainly be interested.

Harry
 
I wonder how a micarta haft would fare instead of a wooden one. I remember seeing a pair of micarta nunchaku for sale in a magazine a long time ago. Just curious.

-Greg
 
The Apache is still going to happen....this is just another new project offering where viability needs to be determined
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Andy Prisco, Manager
Sharper Instinct, LLC
Phone: 1-201-493-2469
Orders-Toll Free: 1-877-557-5200
Fax: 1-201-493-2039
Visa/Mastercard Accepted

Authorized Dealers:
Busse Combat Knives
Big East Bows
Jersey Rigg Lures

Professional Svcs:
Corporate Training
Stress Mgmt.
Shooting Instruction

Busse Combat Custom Variant HeadQuarters
http://www.sharperinstinct.com/hq

Sharper Instinct Main Website
http://www.sharperinstinct.com/
 
Andy, all steel sounds kind of heavy and difficult to balance. It would have to have micarta slabs for a handle. I like the idea of good wood haft or as Greg mentioned, micarta haft. I used to have about 4' of micarta round stock and you can beat the hell out of it and it won't break...some tough sh** stuff!
Oh, yeah, Greg, looking forward to the Blade-O-Leer for my BM-E
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How about a Blade-O-Leer for a tomahawk!!
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Ron,
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OK, OK, what are we going to use it for when we get it? If it's just a pretty collector, appearance over balance is fine.

If we're only going to throw it, balance and a regulation sized blade are what matter. I think that leaves out the all-steel item.

If, as I suspect, Busse buyers are going to use it and use it HARD, we want the shape, design, and balance to do the job. If we plan to throw for fun when not putting it to work, I still have trouble seeing it in all steel -- but my experience is limited. It's just that when I hold and throw a standard tomahawk...well...I have trouble imagining that same feel AND size in an all-steel design.

What would I use it for? Cutting wood, hammering tent stakes, driving 20 penny nails pulling nails if it had a suitable notch, driving fence staples. Maybe even pulling a fence staple if the design permitted; there's a use for a small spike or hook. If my only other tool was a knife, and I needed to do some digging... and root chopping while I was there... well, in short, I want it to WORK. Heck, if it was my only tool and I needed to do some rescue, I'd even use it to cut body metal, windshield or wiring.

But if it's really a "tomahawk," as opposed to hatchet, I'll want to throw it when it's not working.

Will it really do all that if it's all-steel? How about a titanium handle, and grip of the latest/greatest exotic synthetic to come down the pike? OK, I'm getting out of hand. Just wondering how we duplicate the feel of a standard throwing tomahawk, and still get a useful and "nuclear tough" Busse product.

Lane


“The main foundations of every state, new states as well as ancient or composite ones, are good laws and good arms . . . you cannot have good laws without good arms, and where there are good arms, good laws inevitably follow.”

--Niccolò Machiavelli (1469-1527), Italian political philosopher, statesman. The Prince, ch. 12 (1514).


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[This message has been edited by Lane Dexter (edited 10-20-2000).]
 
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