Liberals are my Friends

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We are about to have a national election. There is some crazy stuff being said out there. Personally, I like my liberal friends and I am not going to get bitter and angry with any here. (in case any are wondering, the Last Stand Thread is not about liberals, it is satire, plain and simple)

I'm saying this just because- just because we haven't had any hard feelings this month at HI about politics, and there aren't going to be any on my part past the election. I think we should keep it that way.




munk
 
Agreed. I like most (if not all) of you too much to let politics get in the way.

I would (If I was born 2 months earlier) vote almost straight republican. Some of you on this forum are probably just the opposite. Oh well.

It is too hard to change someone's mind with out being face-to-face with them, and even then it isn't easy. I decided that I will voice opinions but if it comes down to "I'm right and heres why" on either side then I will just leave the thread alone.
 
munk said:
I'm saying this just because- just because we haven't had any hard feelings this month at HI about politics, and there aren't going to be any on my part past the election. I think we should keep it that way.

munk
Here, Here!!!! One of our daughters is a died in the wool liberal, what am I supposed to do, disown her?:rolleyes: :grumpy: Not in this lifetime!!!!:p
Just because we differ on politics doesn't mean we can't still love and respect one another.:D
Same holds here with my friends.:D
 
That's something that should go without saying.

Unfortunately, things that should go without saying often need to be repeated.

Thanks for bringing it up once again, munk.

And Yvsa, the words love and respect needed to be added too. Thanks to you too!

Brotherhood is that way.
 
we reaffirm what has been before. That's what people do. Renew and place in context of now.

Ugga booga

munk
 
If you are not a liberal when you are 30 you don't have a heart. If you are not a conservative when you are 40 you don't have a brain.

But seriously, Yvsa is right. It takes all kinds. That is what built our wonderful country.

I love Norman Rockwell!
 
I wish I had time for politics, or better yet, someone without predijuces to debate.

I always like to hear different points of view only if it is tempered with thought and "intelligence".
;)
 
Thanks for reminding us, munk. I agree. One way or another, whether it be Bush or Kerry that wins the election, i'm going to venture to wage that earth will not split open and swallow cities whole, the sky will not fall on Chicken Little's head, nor will the end times be at hand (as much as i want to hole up at munk's compound..er, estate). I imagine we will plod along through another 4 years of whomever and do this little dance all over again;) I personally sway slightly to the right. Really, its not for any idealogical gains. War is war. right wrong or neutral, its war. I believe Plato said something to the effect that "Only the dead have seen an end to war" or something like that. So it has nothing to do with anything like that. I'm a small business guy, and in my area at least, Republicans do more to help me make ends meet than Democrats. Call me a greedy bastid, but i want to make a good living. Not millions, but a good living for my future kids. You all are great people. everyone of you has his or her place, and that place also includes your political affiliation. That's cool by me. Still, I'm voting DIJ for prez in 2008. We need a ninja in office.

Jake
 
It is difficult to feel self rightieous when so many others strive for the same.


munk
 
You fellows keep me laughing! Oh well back to the chores, selling a house today, [maybe]. :D
 
The Dali Lama remains my hero and when I grow up I want to be just like him

Me too, but I'm not sure I want to write that many books!! :eek: ;)

I agree that we can still be nice to people of differing politial views
 
I can love my liberal friends but that doesn't mean they won't wake up to find all four tires on their car missing their valve stems come election day. :D :D :D

PS: If you're conservative, vote early and often, and direct liberals off on a wild goose chase from the polling places. ;)
 
Hi folks - I have had lots of interesting conversations with friends who are libertarians by nature. We enjoy the discussions.

I don't see any liberals running for office - I see conservatives (the Democrats) and I don't know what to make of Republicans today. They want to change everything - that is not conservative. The pres. wants to privatize social security, and that is a loser for most of us. He wants a flat tax, and that will raise my taxes. This is not really conservative.

Conservatives want to maintain the status quo. By this sort of definition, the Democrats aren't conservative either, since they want a change in leadership.

Incidentally, Democrats are good for business. If you look at what has happened to the stock market after Republicans were elected president - it went down in 6 of the last 7 presidencies. It generally went up after Democrats were elected. It is lower now than it was 4 years ago.

The point of all of this is that there is a lot of stereotyping going on in the media and the election campaign. We need to look at all of the political junk with an open mind.

I predict that whether the next president is a Republican or a Democrat, the stuff is going to hit the fan. Paul Volker, the former Fed. Chief under Reagan, said that there is a 75% chance of a financial crisis next year. You can't go on borrowing forever without paying for it.

Borrowing is good to buy a khukuri. Borrowing 1/4 of your income each year is not so good....I am referring to Federal spending.

I hope that people don't get too bent out of shape by my comments, but I thought that the title of this thread came across as a little condescending. The intent was positive, and that was good - that is what is important. People can have honest differences of opinion in our country, and that is what has made it better than all of the others. When Americans start to trash each other - that makes us weaker.
 
The majority of people calling themselves "Conservative" seem to have no understanding of what traditional conservative political values really are. Instead they think it has something to do with Jesus, Guns, women's reproductive organs, and listening to a loud mouthed dope addict on a talk radio show.

I wonder what Barry Goldwater would think of today's "Conservatives".
 
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