Liner Slipping?

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SubDisease

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Got my Emerson Horseman 2 weeks ago, been trying to break it in. I immediately noticed right off the bat the liner slips from 20% to 50% and sometimes went past 50% I tried disassembling it and adjusting the liner myself. I got it so it doesn't pass 50% of the tang all too often but it'll do it when it's flicked open or waved, when it's opened using the thumb disc it goes back to 20%,40% and up to 50%.

I get very minor side-side bladeplay when the liner doesn't go past 50% Is this normal for an Emerson?
 
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I've had a grand total of 3 CQC8s, none of the problems that yu mentioned were present in any of them. If you've emailed them and they provided instruction on what to do next, why not just send it in and have it repaired? You are prolonging worry and procrastinating repair to an issue that concerns you for what reason?
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RevDevil said:
I've had a grand total of 3 CQC8s, none of the problems that yu mentioned were present in any of them. If you've emailed them and they provided instruction on what to do next, why not just send it in and have it repaired? You are prolonging worry and procrastinating repair to an issue that concerns you for what reason?
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Hmm, the blade play I can perceive may not be an issue to them but I guess I haven't tried Emerson's customer service yet. Had a lot of knives sent out and came back with the same problem. (Shouldn't shoot myself down before trying) :foot:
 
SubDisease said:
Hmm, the blade play I can perceive may not be an issue to them but I guess I haven't tried Emerson's customer service yet. Had a lot of knives sent out and came back with the same problem. (Shouldn't shoot myself down before trying) :foot:
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I had a good experience with them. I sent in a cqc7 8 years old, and the lockbar was all the way over to the right (90%), I included a note explaining my concerns and asked them to replace the liner lock and the stop pin. I got my knife back in 2 weeks, the lock was not only at 20%, but it was a liner almost twice as thick, and a new clean stop pin was in there too. I could not have been happier with the end result. Their customer service was spot on for my simple request. Give them a try, email them first, and include a short note with the knife, if you want it sharpened or not, what you would like done. :thumbup:
 
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cevtv said:
There shouldn't be any blade play....
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There's a certain point it will stop, but it's so tight it gets stuck midway on flicking or waving. I'll send it in like rev said, thanks for sharing your experience, I feel better about their customer service.
 
the lock up on my mini a-100 is inconsistent. ive had it about 2-3 weeks.

sometimes, its a solid lockup. if i open the knife slowly, or normally with the thumb disc, sometimes theres up and down blade play.

before i adjusted the liners, sometimes the liner lock would slide around very easily. and i was able to fold the knive with little pressure on the blade.
i felt it was too unsafe to use.

i called emerson about this, and they suggested to send it in.

EDIT: i adjusted my liner and lock bar. and now lock up is solid without any movement however the blade is deployed.
 
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I had a Horseman with the same problem as the OPs, blade play and a "slippy" liner lock. I sent it in to Emerson and they fixed it right up.
 
I had a similar problem on a recent 7B model.

My guess was that the liner lock face did not engage the tang at a perfect parallel. I think the liner lock "arm" had a twist in it that caused play even though the liner was at 50% position on the tang.

When I looked at the area on the tang of the blade where the lock engages, I could see that only part of the tang showed any wear. If it had engaged the tang perfectly, I would assume there to be more wear across that area of the tang.

A twisted "lock-arm" might also cause slippage. (maybe)

I am awaiting return from the factory now.
 
cevtv said:
It's NOT supposed to engage parallel....scroll down to the part titled "The Emerson Locking Liner Explained", it explains everything......

http://www.emersonknives.com/ekKnifeAnatomy.php
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That's not really an explanation though, it raises more questions than it answers. I've seen many great framelock designs where the face of the lockbar is in parallel with the blade tang. I've also seen quite a few liner lock designs that are unsafe simply because the they are not parallel. The "not-parallel" design creates more wear and nothing positive.
 
It's happened to me once on a P-SARK, and I sent it in and they replaced the liners under warranty.

Under pressure the liner slipped enough to make me worry, but not enough to disengage.

Definitely send it in!
 
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