Lion Steel G-10 Daghetta vs SOG Flash II as general use EDC

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I'm wondering what your opinion is on which would be better as general use EDC. I don't know much about 440C Stainless, but I know AUS8 is good, expecially with SOG's cryo treatment. The Flash II is assisted opening, this could cause some problems with LEOs that don't know the difference between that and an auto knife. They have similar locks, but I've heard the Daghetta's lock acts like a lockback?
 
Plasmio said:
I'm wondering what your opinion is on which would be better as general use EDC. I don't know much about 440C Stainless, but I know AUS8 is good, expecially with SOG's cryo treatment. The Flash II is assisted opening, this could cause some problems with LEOs that don't know the difference between that and an auto knife. They have similar locks, but I've heard the Daghetta's lock acts like a lockback?
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idk about you buy iv been looking around lately and iv been sugested a ton of nice looking knives for the same price as the flash 2 and around the same size ontario rat 1 and spyderco tenacious.

Im also nervous about an assisted knife for the same reasons
 
I was actually already planning on purchasing a RAT-1 some time. Nice liner lock knife.
 
Only Sog I ever had was a POS. Lasted less than a week under light use before the spring bound rendering the knife inoperable. This was in addition to the wild blade play it had right out of the package that could not be fixed. They have sort of a shaky rep from what I've seen. Lionsteel on the other hand has a good reputation and they make some fine products. The Carbon fiber Daghetta has been on my list for a while now, I just keep getting sidetracked. 440 isn't some fancy steel but it's still decent and Lionsteel puts it to good use.
 
Italians do have a reputation for well-made products. I've never personally had a problem with SOG's knives, I have heard of a few people having problems though.
 
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broke the blade on a SOG right in half, wouldn't reccomend them to anyone. Lionsteel makes some great knives, the daghetta has been on my watch list for awhile, its a beautiful looking knife.
 
razorsdescent said:
broke the blade on a SOG right in half, wouldn't reccomend them to anyone. Lionsteel makes some great knives, the daghetta has been on my watch list for awhile, its a beautiful looking knife.
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What were you even doing with it? That can happen to any knife that wasn't tempered well. Maybe you got a bad blade, I haven't heard anyone complain of their SOG knives breaking in two other than the SOGfari machete because they used steel that wasn't fit for a large blade and it wasn't tempered well.
 
Mention SOG and the haters will come out of the woodwork. I have four SOG folders, two Vulcans, a Visionary II and an Aegis and none of them have presented any problems at all. No loose blades, no bad heat treats, nothing but solid performance.

As for your choice, don't let the idea of 440C be a factor in your decision, as it is an excellent steel for all around use, in fact, it is one of my favorite steels. Go with what feels right to you.
 
I don't hate SOG knive's, but I have read a lot of reports about problems with some of their Flash folder's. I've had fixed blade SOG's and some of the older Tomcats and never had any problems with either. But again, after reading of the problems other's have had I just will not take a chance with one, plus I do not like the design. I have two LionSteel products, both SR-1's, and the workmanship is outstanding. Never had the Daghetta but have read some excellent reports about it, and just read a thread about it either here or in the LionSteel forum by Reeek. You might want to look for it as it does have some excellent pics!
 
A.P.F. said:
Mention SOG and the haters will come out of the woodwork. I have four SOG folders, two Vulcans, a Visionary II and an Aegis and none of them have presented any problems at all. No loose blades, no bad heat treats, nothing but solid performance.

As for your choice, don't let the idea of 440C be a factor in your decision, as it is an excellent steel for all around use, in fact, it is one of my favorite steels. Go with what feels right to you.
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I've never heard heard of any SOG blades (besides the SOGfari) chipping or snapping in half. I can't see why their AUS8 blades, but no other company's would be snapping. The cryogenic heat treatment is supposed to add to the blade strength, not weaken it.
The Daghetta is a good-looking knife IMO, the tanto blade on the Flash II looks cool, but it's difficult to sharpen and doesn't have many uses, as for the standard drop point... Eh, kind of unattractive to me, but has more uses. If I chose the Flash II I'd get plain drop point.
 
Actually, Lionsteel has stated their Daghetta will from now on be made in D2, so put that into consideration.
With that in mind, D2 is a bear to grind but will hold an edge for a much longer time, while AUS8 is very easy to grind but will not hold an overall edge for as long.
Anyways, I'd say the Daghetta. Overall stronger construction and materials, and build quality is probably better for long term use.
 
Mephtyrm said:
Actually, Lionsteel has stated their Daghetta will from now on be made in D2, so put that into consideration.
With that in mind, D2 is a bear to grind but will hold an edge for a much longer time, while AUS8 is very easy to grind but will not hold an overall edge for as long.
Anyways, I'd say the Daghetta. Overall stronger construction and materials, and build quality is probably better for long term use.
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Wow. I already ordered both... That sucks to know.
 
Plasmio said:
Wow. I already ordered both... That sucks to know.
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The Sog Flash II is a fine knife, both in terms of design, aesthetics and functionality. Good steel, nice flipper action, FFG, sweet deep carry clip, and its not spendy. Yeah, it doesn't feel like a Sebenza, but its a $50 knife and not $425. Give it a chance and you may like it a lot.
 
Though you ordered both, I have a feeling you'll like the Lionsteel better. When comparing the two in person, I think the higer quality will be obvious (Not that the Flash is a bad product, at all.)

Also, 440C> AUS-8

Additionally, if your Daghetta is in fact in D2, you won't be dissapointed with that steel. Edge retention, wear resistance, et al, far exceed AUS-8. It IS less rust resistant, but in actual use, assuming you give your knives even the smallest bit of maintainence, it should be a nonissue.
 
Yeah, don't let the D2 put you off- if in fact your Daghetta comes in D2. I like D2 a lot. Great edge retention, it just might take a couple minutes more to get that edge back. I own more knives in D2 than anything else: HEST 2.0, BM 32, BM 2750 Adamas, Microtech Combat Elite, etc.
 
No, I didn't mean it sucked because of the tool steel, I know tool steel is good stuff, I just have a feeling mine will still be 440C because it was advertised as that on BladeHQ's images and specs. I ordered both so I can get a feel for the two.
 
That 440C is an excellent steel and in the 60's and 70's was one of the few "super steels" and used by a lot of custom makers at the time. It is easy to take care of, sharpens well, holds the edge good if ht is done correctly, and with it having been around as long as it has and used as much as it has, the ht should not be an issue, especially with LionSteel.
 
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