Lion steel SR-1A 1st Impressions

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Preface
FYI, this is a "re-post" from my original 4/22 post.
This is an account of my first impressions of a knife which I recently acquired. My goal here is to describe a knife that you may have heard of or even seen online, but haven't had the opportunity to look at in detail. My personal observations, photos and short background on the designer/ manufacturer and their objectives will help one get a better idea of the knife and it's key attributes. I will follow up with a review once I have had the opportunity to actually work with the knife over a reasonable length of time. Last but not least ...enjoy!

Intro
I went out the other day to pick up a Rockstead and came home with a real beauty of a folder! But... there was this other knife that caught my eye... something that is really quite hard to do when you already have a gem in your hands. I couldn't imagine a better compliment for that other knife, which was a Lion Steel SR-1Al.


click-the-pics for the larger, 1280x version


Poor man's SR-1
I'm not sure if that's the best heading to use, because there's absolutely nothing poor (or cheap) about the SR-1Al. Note the "Al" suffix - that stands for aluminum. As you probably know, Lion Steel was awarded Best innovative Imported Design at the 2010 Blade Show for their original SR-1, which is a Titanium monoblock / frame-lock based folder. A real beauty and certainly worth the asking price. I thought about picking one up late last year but decided the price was a bit too high for my budget. So you can imagine how pleased I was when I heard that Lion Steel would be issuing an Aluminum version of the SR-1 at a substantially lower price :D



There are three differences between the SR-1 and SR-1Al:
  • Frame material (Ti vs. Al)
  • Elegant wooden box (& much more importantly, the pivot/clip tool...!) vs. cardboard (& much more importantly, no pivot/clip tool...!)
  • Sleipner [snob-] tool steel vs. D2 [Poor man's-] tool steel
Otherwise, the SR-1Al has the same beautifully-sculpted monoblock frame, the high-quality hard-anodized finish, the innovative features and the superb blade. As for the remaining stats:
Length: Overall 21.1cm (8.3") / Closed: 11.8cm (4.7")
Weight: 159g (5.6oz)
Blade Type: "wide-chord" drop-point, flat grind
Length: 9.4cm (3.7")
Material: D2 tool steel
Frame: 6061 Aluminum monoblock
Pocket Clip: tip-up only but reversible from front to back
Action: frame lock / thumb stud




Monoblock. With a Frame Lock. With a Lock.
Although there may be others, the SR-1 is the first knife I own (or even know of) that has a one-piece frame machined out of Ti/Al... (!) Even if it's not the first, solid frames are certainly not very common. Just think of the added effort to machine this puppy...! The SR-1's unique monoblock uses a less-unique and in fact the very well-know Reeves Integral Lock (RIL) also commonly referred to as a frame lock. And that is a good thing because as the saying goes, why reinvent the wheel? Lion Steel did however add their own twist to the RIL by providing for a replaceable "lock face", knowing that this part of the frame lock is the first to go, so to speak.



Just to top off the frame innovations, they even incorporated a safety lock - which (as the name would imply...) locks the frame-lock in the open position. All it takes is a quick twist (with your thumb) of the locking "nut" which is centered exactly between the frame-lock "arm" and the rest of the frame. Very simple, very nice and very effective! At first glance, it is easy to assume that this mechanism [also] functions as Rick Hinderer's Lock Bar Stabilizer but this is not quite the case (see addendum for details). Finally, some might be concerned that Al may be too malleable for a frame-lock. Personally I have limited experience with frame-lock folders and my thumb is already raw from disengaging the lock; having said that, I find it hard to imagine the frame "arm" bending or otherwise experiencing structural fractures, but please keep in mind I'm not a specialist (insert grain-of-salt here).



While we're on the topic of robustness, the SR-1's lockup is solid and there is zero blade-play. It comes quite stiff out of the box, both pivot and frame-lock are quite stiff - with time & usage this will hopefully give a bit or I will need to adjust the pivot a little as I can hardly open it a la one hand without wildly jerking the whole arm... not very subtle. Closing it requires two hands, simply because my right hand doesn't have enough strength to push the lock out of the way and fold the blade in one go (ymmv). The clip is small and non-protrusive and is located all the way at the butt of the knife for deep-pocket carry. The clip is relatively smooth and it's tension is reasonable. It can also be moved from the back to the front-face, but only tip-up. This is where the tool that comes with the original SR-1 would be handy...



Ergonomically, the blade's modest jimping combined with a deep finger-guard provide for a very secure grip. Keep in mind however that Al is usually more slippery than say G10 and the SR-1Al's finish, although matt-looking, has a glossy feel to it. Compared to the rough-matt finish of my Benchmade 943SBK which is very grippy for Al, the SR-1's finish is perhaps to "smooth" for rough work. The ribbing, which looks awesome, doesn't seem to add all that much to the grip. Even the Rockstead's Tei offers a bit more grip thanks to the stingray inlays. I plan on looking at the titanium version again and I will compare the feel of both to see if there is a difference in the finish. Maintenance-wise, the monoblock construction and added gizmos will make cleaning a bit tricky. Lion Steel has machined holes in the frame's spine which should facilitate cleaning but I would avoid using it on "messy" subjects... .




Wide chord
Here's a term not heard too often which describes a blade that is broad all the way through to the tip. I own a few of Doug Ritter's knives (which is a BM Griptillian with Ritter's custom blade) and those were the "fattest" drop points in my collection. Enter the SR-1: Now this thing's got belly! The steel used is another cost-reducing change between the original SR-1 and SR-1Al. The Ti's blade is made of Böhler-Uddeholm’s Sleipner tool steel while the Al version comes with classic D2 tool steel. Now Sleipner is said to have similar characteristics to D2 but is supposedly more resistant to chipping and general wear. Of all the differences, this is the one that hurts me the most, being the *cough* closet-steel-snob *cough* that I am... (lol). Otherwise, I have to say it's a stunning blade with a high flat-grind which makes for a great slicer with plenty of follow-through power. The edge has a standard factory "saw-tooth" finish and most users will want to finish it off by hand.




Molletta & Maniago
Molletta is a popular designer in the EU and is quickly gaining reputation globally. He has done work under the Custom knives "label" Nexus, and of course for Lion Steel. Lion Steel is located in Maniago, Italy. Maniago is today one of the more prominent knife-making regions of the EU giving the other established regions serious completion (I'm sure that all the Fällkniven and Böker fans here may choose debate that statement...). Maniago is home to Falcon, Fantoni, Fox (Siff), Lion Steel, Maserin and still others.




Conclusion
Beautiful knife, great design, great bloodline and great pricing too. Many Blade 2010 attendees probably already own the titanium version, but for those who just didn't have enough cash, here's your (correction, our) chance to enjoy the knife too :D


Addendunm
"...At first glance, it is easy to assume that this mechanism [also] functions as Rick Hinderer's Lock Bar Stabilizer but this is not the case..."

Just to be absolutely clear, I'd like to expand on the above statement. First off, Lion Steel calls it's locking mechanism RotoBlock*. The RotoBlock does share one function with Hinderer's stabilizer; they both prevent the lock bar from over-extending when unlocking. Otherwise, the RotoBlock's principle function is to "lock" the lock bar and Hinderer's to "stabilize" the lock bar. Regardless of the difference, Lion Steel's Gianni Pauletta did talk with Rick Hinderer prior to releasing the SR-1 series.
*FYI/ fwiw, the RotoBlock is also implemented in the DPx HEST folder.













 
There are three differences between the SR-1 and SR-1A:
  • Frame material (Ti vs. Al)
  • Elegant wooden box (& much more importantly, the pivot/clip tool...!) vs. cardboard (& much more importantly, no pivot/clip tool...!)
  • Sleipner [snob-] tool steel vs. D2 [Poor man's-] tool steel
An offer I couldn't refuse
Speaking of SR-1 versions, going with Al, D2 and that measly cardboard box (*gasp*) to save some money for a "user" was the right thing to do in my book. But now speaking from the Collector's point of view, I came across an offer I couldn't refuse...




And then there were three
One of my local "cutlery consultants" personally visited Lion Steel and brought back some very nice editions of the SR-1, including this one, a Raindrop Chad Nichols stainless damascus SR-1D :D Although the figures will change soon, this is one of three of the original Raindrop damascus runs. For those interested, Lion Steel has also released a Chad Nichols Iguana stainless, also a very nice pattern!



*EDIT* Although the figures have mildly changed (160g/5.6oz to 180g/6.4oz 201g / 7.1oz ), the Ti version feels a lot heavier in the hand, the balance now moved back to the handle (where as the Al version is slightly nose-heavy and will tilt right out of your hand if allowed to). Other than that (and I'm assuming you don't want to hear about the wooden box *gasp*), I think the photos speak for themselves... ;)


This pov never tires...


Raindrop is ...sooo sick!


I <3 damascus...


Break out the toolset...


Replaceable lock face ... & detent ball!


Rotoblock in the unlocked position...



Of course there's always room for improvement...
There's really very little to criticize about the SR-1, much less such an exquisite version! But like everything else, there are always upgrade opportunities for the "MK-II" version... . One minor complaint may be the teflon pivot washers. Wether phospherous bronze washers will provide dramatic longevity may depend on how much use the knive sees. I didn't mention it in my original review, but now that I have the king of SR-1s, I thought it worth mentioning.




Another thing that made me do a double-take was the groove they made just outside of the detent radius. I even asked Lion Steel about it, having never seen this before on any other knife. They told me that this groove was made to prevent the layers of damsacus form peeling when opening the knife (during it's lifetime). In any event, they have assured me that the solution has since been refined, but that the first few can be considered prototypes. They also graciously offered to take care of it, but hey, it's my first prototype and I think it makes it all the more unique ;)

 
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thanks for the review ... accurate and well made.
The photos are very beautiful
 
Hi Travelller -

Nice review, your pictures show off the knife beautifully.

Thanks for an enjoyable post to read, about a very nice knife.

best regards -

mqqn
 
GREAT Review :thumbup:

I picked up a LionSteel at Blade, a SR-1Al. Green frame and the milspec finish bluing on the knife. I thought I'd never get a high end folder (my 890 Torrent was/is great so replacing it seemed pointless), but once I handled it I knew I had to have it. Great fit and finish and seems like it can take a beating. Mine was very tight as well, and Slip 2000 didn't help any so with time and use I hope it becomes looser.

The one problem I have with it- the clip is small and sharp, but I can live with it :) It is a great knife and very sharp.

Thanks for all the pictures and information.
 
Thx guys. glad you enjoyed it :)
M67, congrats on your new beauty! It's even more fun when you pick it up from Gianni & Co. One of these days I will also get the opportunity - maybe for a more local show here in the EU :)

p.s. We could use more photos of that model, should you so feel inclined... ;)
 
M67, congrats on your new beauty! It's even more fun when you pick it up from Gianni & Co. One of these days I will also get the opportunity - maybe for a more local show here in the EU :)

p.s. We could use more photos of that model, should you so feel inclined... ;)

Thanks, and sure, here's some pics





I don't know why the pics are different sizes, but I'm getting tired of image shack
 
im curious if the lockbar on AL version has as much resistance when pushing the lockbar over to close the knife as the TI versions do? in other works does the lockbar have a good solid feel to when dissengaging the lock or is it easy and feel as if "less" solid than the TI version? thanks in advance sir.....
 
im curious if the lockbar on AL version has as much resistance when pushing the lockbar over...
No worries, the Aluminum frame is just as solid as it's Titanium counterpart. That is to say, both of them are stiff and have a very dependable feel to them - more so than you might imagine! I had a couple of titanium frame locks from a very popular Ti-frame-lock designer, known for their "so big and badass - might as well be fixed" folders and they were soft in comparison to both SR-1s, I-kid-you-not!

Of course, I cannot speak about long-term usage and how the Alu will fare over time and regular usage compared to Ti, but out-of-the-box, they are both hardcore. Too bad they are so elegant, otherwise I might have been tempted to even call them badass... lol ;)
 
I agree, after a week in the pocket I'm loving mine. The lockbar is VERY stiff, the knife is elegant, a WONDERFUL value. I'm having a hard time steering clear of the damascus ti version. The aluminum is slick, but it has yet to be of any real concern.
 
Of course, I cannot speak about long-term usage and how the Alu will fare over time and regular usage compared to Ti,

We have tested daily for more than one year samples made with alluminum frame... no one problem.
 
We have tested daily for more than one year samples made with alluminum frame... no one problem.

Will the newer versions come with bronze washers and possibly the IKBS bearing system?
 
Excellent review and fantastic pictures!

@Gianni: Why cant i see the SR-1A at your website? I only see the regular titanium version.
 
@Gianni: Why cant i see the SR-1A at your website?
Shhhh! Not so loud... the Alu version is still top secret stuff...!

Naaah, they are just overwhelmed (imo) making knives :thumbup: The irony though is that I have one of their marketing brochures and it has the aluminum SR-1 as well as everything else in Lion Steel's [current] lineup (exception, the damascus SR-1).

Or maybe it's so popular they don't have the supply to meet the current demand and thus they're holding back on any further marketing.

Or maybe they are prepping for Ferragosto.

Or maybe it's all of the above.

Ok I'll stop now... :p
 
Shhhh! Not so loud... the Alu version is still top secret stuff...!

Naaah, they are just overwhelmed (imo) making knives :thumbup: The irony though is that I have one of their marketing brochures and it has the aluminum SR-1 as well as everything else in Lion Steel's [current] lineup (exception, the damascus SR-1).

Or maybe it's so popular they don't have the supply to meet the current demand and thus they're holding back on any further marketing.

Or maybe they are prepping for Ferragosto.

Or maybe it's all of the above.

Ok I'll stop now... :p

.... or maybe I need helppppppppppp....... :-)))
 
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