Livesay RTAK

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I scored a great Early RAT Blade....only missing the retaining strap....
 
Tony,

Great Score..but you scored this.. You scored a low Ser# RC-3MIL, you Scored...etc

Your ALWAYS scoring!! Toss a score my way! Hell, I got an IOU from a box of Cracker Jacks the other day :( I bet you always got picked first at dodgeball too!

HaHa, It is a really great SCORE man, very nice!

signed:
/extremelyjealousandsoontobefilinganinjuctionagainstthefurtherscoringofTexasTonyDobbstilllifeevensoutandIgetsomethingcooltooandmygrandmotherapologizesforanouncingtosearsdepartmentstorethatweneedthehuskyboyssectionwhenIwas10.

Did I mention great Score? :D:D:D:D
 
LOL ! see what you dont realize is when I am high ....well I am high but when I am low...well I would take Grandma calling for the husky section in a heart beat !!!
Ok you want a Score Bro...;)
Check this out, Scroll down...:thumbup:






Try the sale or trade or want section on BF...place or respond to an ad and if you have the Cash/Trade ..you will score almost 100% of the time.:D
Did I say Thank you....Thanks Bro !!!:)
 
Great score, happy for you to get what you've been wanting. I'm unfamiliar with Livesay and his knives, care for a short history lesson?
 
A short history of the Model 163 "The Original Livesay RTAK Machete." . No longer made. A copy of the Livesay RTAK in name only is made by Ontario Knife Company. The original Livesay RTAK is a variation inspired by the model 121, Recon Combat Machete, aka; Rapid Deployment designed and manufacture here in Siloam Springs, Arkansas. The original Livesay RTAK was a collaboration between Jeff Randall, and Newt Livesay with modification made on the handle in the Livesay shop. The original RTAK machete were of limited production with only about 375 knives being made. Production was stopped on the original Livesay RTAK when we found out that Ontario Knife Company had begun making the knife. Livesay RTAK machetes have a more ergonomically designed user friendly custom handle, and the blades were differentially heat treated with edges being in the 59-60 Rockwell range. The way we found out that this knife was being made with the same name (RTAK) was when we started getting production knives not made by us back for warranty or rework due to warped, and wrinkled blades. At this point standard production of this knife was halted because I (Newt Livesay) did not want our superior quality blades to be compromised by the copies that were being dumped on the market.
 
Wow, does that sound familiar! We get daily emails from people who have an Ontario RAT knife wanting RAT Cutlery to fix it or replace it. And when we tell them we have nothing to do with Ontario and that Ontario won't communicate with us on fixing problems, they get mad at us.
 
Wow, does that sound familiar! We get daily emails from people who have an Ontario RAT knife wanting RAT Cutlery to fix it or replace it. And when we tell them we have nothing to do with Ontario and that Ontario won't communicate with us on fixing problems, they get mad at us.
 
I knew you'd have a flash back on that,I edited the last half about Newt not getting paid ETC....just so it did not flare up anothter thread or hi jacking .....
 
To be flat honest, Newt should NOT have gotten paid from Ontario even though he eluded to the fact that he never received any royalty (in the part that you didn't post up). The RTAK design is the property of RAT outright. We designed it and commissioned Newt to build it. Just like with Ontario, we never gave up ANY of our Intellectual Property Rights, so the ONLY people who should receive a royalty on the knife being sold is us (RAT). I just don't understand how people feel that stealing a tangible object if wrong but see no wrong in taking or laying claim to Intellectual Property which didn't come from their own mind. Hell, I would rather someone steal a tangible article from me than steal what I invented in my own mind.
 
I bought one of those direct from Newt Wicked Knife Co. many years ago. I used it quite and bit before selling it. I thought it held an edge well, the handle was comfortable (if a little big for my hand) and the sheath was solid with good retention. I didn't like that the edge was thick. Spent awhile thinning it out. Also didn't like that it was not ground evenly on both sides.
 
That is what I though upon reading the article ,that is why I edited the part about Newt never being paid....It was your design he just built it,if I read the article right...
 
This RTAK seems well built and to me Grinds are pretty even and I like the handle ,very comfortable in hand,the micarta seems smoothed out and has a almost slick feel yet still has grip to it... blade is light and cuts well..... I like it... Great Design Jeff....
 
A lot of people never understood the concept of the RTAK handles (and that's the reason we finally changed them on the RTAK II). They were never meant to be fully gripped in hammer style. They were meant to be used in a pinch grip machete style so more blade tip speed could be achieved on the blade when swinging in vines and vegetation. The RTAK was a good design but it really wasn't meant for this side of the Equator ;)
 
...tell that to my Wife...she used it to clear her rose bushes....I wanted to play a small trick on her and give her the Tram,blunt edge,have yet to reprofile it ...and let her work her ass off and then give her something better...O'course she grabs the RTAK(livesay) 1st. laughing,I know about RAT and was done in less than 5 minutes.......
 
Regardless, it's a nice slab of RAT history, "Rastory"..! Another piece of steel along the road to RC. I'm sure you will be glad to have it down the road as well as now :thumbup:
 
The knife looks great but man... that sheath could be trimmed off a little! LOL. Great score Tony, enjoy it.

Mikel
 
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