Living out of my pack. 4 Days three nights.

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Living out of my pack means no resupply of food or other consumables with the exception of water and fuel (wood) though wild edibles are a GO! Nothing too hard as was looking to just take it easy. The plan was to hike through the hills infested with rattlesnakes and bears. Ok that was dramatic but we did have a near bear encounter. I normally hike alone but this time Canadian Guy came down from the far north.

Our packs.



This monstrosity struck terror in the hearts of other hikers. I think that side of the truck actually dipped from the weight. We field stripped it down some but what yea see here is what was taken. Guessing nearly 50 lbs. Mine was a bit lighter. The total distance was around 17 miles one way to another vehicle for the ride back to the truck. Not a long hike for the time out but the country promised plenty of hills.



It rained just before setting off. The woods were damp with high humidity.



Hammock camping with poncho as a small hangout/gear shelter in case it rains.





DIY lantern worked well.



One pro of a hammock shelter is you can set it up on very unlevel ground.







The Hemlocks.



Two floors which is the exception. Lower floor with bunks.



Upper floor/loft.



This looks like hen of the woods but no expert on shrooms.



It was mostly uphill on the second day. Then again the same could be said of the first.









Looks like we have a destination, well almost as the primitive camp is 2 or so miles past the Ravine.



The AT has lots of rocks.





Mount Everett in the rear view mirror.



Time to move on.







Mount Race. It has a very very steep cliff off to one side with impassable brush on the other side of the trail. Some spots you only had maybe 2 feet to the edge with no place to go. We rated it a 7 out of 10 on the suck meter.



I believe those hills were our destination.



Made it to the Ravine.



It was a good opportunity to take a bath in the pools. The water was cold but air hot so it worked out well.



The only chaga we found on the trip. Took some for firecraft. Never can get enough of the stuff.



Only an additional 2.1 miles to the primative campsite. Even then there would be a long walk into the camping area from the trail. Then a long walk to the water and privy once in camp. Anyone seeing a trend here?



Hiking around Bear mountain.



My Core 4 stove. I took a wood stove, Canadian guy a canister stove. Both have their pros and cons.



Silnylon undercover for my hammock. Keeps the wind chill off and bugs from biting through the bottom.



The clothesline is really usefull to dry stuff and hang it off the ground.



One match fire. GO!



With all that White birch bark the outcome was never in question.





Lights and knives:

I packed the following.

1. Mora Companion in SS.
2. Fenix HL30 headlamp.
3. 4/7 Mini AA2.



My primary logic being that each light used the same format 2XAA. Even my packed GPS uses 2XAA so if one needed batteries they could be taken from another if the backup set got used.

Canadian Guy packed the following.

1. 4XAA Coleman lantern.
2. 4/7 Quark 2xAA G2.
3. Petzl 3xAAA headlamp (old school model).
4. Mora/LMF knife.





We also had some pocket knives and USB charging power packs/banks. Mine was a cheap 5 dollar generic USB power bank and Canadian Guy's was a Goal Zero Guide 10 Plus. His headlamp was nearly dead and without more AAA batteries it is what it is however he was able to replace the dying AAs in the Quark. I changed out my dead AAs in the 4/7 mini after the first night with the extra set but on the flip side the power bank was dead. I just got it so was cycling it a few times but forgot the final charging. I needed to use his Guide 10 to charge my phone which had the GPS address for getting back to the truck's parking spot. I do have a Guide 10 and multiple USB power banks but that and 50 cents won't buy me a cup of coffee if what I actually packed failed. We had plenty of electrical power to get the job done but each of us had some minor failures in that department. My Garmin had the waypoint set so we really didn't need the cellphone and Canadian Guy had the lantern and flashlight to take up the dying headlamp's slack.

1. Always make sure all batteries and power banks are charged/fresh before needed.

2. Use the same battery configuration for each device if possible.

The camp.



 
Canister and wood stove.



Pros and cons.

Pros.

1. Canister stoves are more convenient. For fast setup with little prep work canister stoves are king.

2. Canister stoves cook and boil faster. Also easier to control the heat output.

3. Wood stoves can be more UL all things considered.

4. Wood stoves can double as a small scout fire to drive way bugs, toss out some area heat and provide caveman TV.

5. Wood stoves never runs out of fuel. It uses scraps of wood which are often available in even the most picked clean area.

6. Most canister stoves I have used tended to be more reliable than some liquid fuel stoves.

7. For the most part there is nothing to go wrong with a wood stove in terms of mechanical failure.

Cons.

1. Once the canister is used up the stove becomes a paperweight.

2. I sometimes feel like the timer is ticking with a canister stove. A wood stove can just burn and burn and burn.

3. You still have to spend time to find wood and if it's raining that can be an issue. Not impossible during rain but still that's a factor.

4. Must have basic firecraft stills to run a wood stove.

5. Harder to operate a wood stove under a tarp. There is always the fear of an ember floating up and melting a hole. It's rare but can happen. The same applies to air pads too near the stove. One flier and there could be nice air leak in your pad.

6. Canister stoves aren't the best option in cold weather.

7. Canister stoves can be heavier because of the need for packed fuel. This disparity increases the longer it's required. Then again I have hobo stoves which are over 2 lbs so for shorter outings the canister stove can potentially more UL than some hobo type stoves. But other times not. Sounds like double talk but it's not, or maybe it is?

I could go on however 7 and 7 are enough to make the point that both have their pros and cons.

A short hike for the day. Just up the hill then to a camp on the plateau.



Hardly any blueberries but ate a bunch of hucks.



The sky started to look ominous as we hiked up Bear.



At the top there wasn't really any place to go. Too late to hike down so just hoped for the best. It's a popular hiking destination so there were others in the same boat.







The wind picked up and rain moved in. By the time we got our ponchos on it blew over. I guess taking out raingear has the opposite effect of a rain dance. Photo taken at the top of Bear.



Yup. Yet another hammock camp. At least the food weight was getting less.

Canadian Guy's hammock.



Mine. Believe it or not despite being August after the storm blew over cold air settled on the plateau. The poncho liner wasn't enough so had to put on my extra shirt around 2 am. It was a chilly night once again proving that in the hills it can get cold anytime of the year.



Took another bath in a stream but this time used my Ti cup to scoop water out dumping it over me. No pools available. Speaking of water the 10 L MSR Dromedary Bag proved useful in camp. I should get one. Avoided the MSR because of weight concerns but for group camping or preps it looks good.

Nearly unlimited water in camp plus enough to head out without filtering more.



All packed up for the hike out. One pro of having two vehicles is we didn't have to cover the same ground twice. A bit more pack than I like to drag through the hills but then again I wasn't carrying it.



On the way out we had a very near bear encounter but it ran off. This is as it should be. Sorry no picture as it happened so fast. After that I cracked out the bear bell. Seen no more so did the bell prevent another encounter or was that just a coincidence? Who knows. LOL!





A selfie by the last shelter of the trip.





In the shelter's book there was some wisdom....



Q: What really frightens you on the trail?

A. Hummmm...

Q: Bears?

A: No.

Q: Snakes?

A: Not really.

Q: Lightning?

A: Not in the slightest.

Q (person 2): You really want to know?

A (person 1): Yes!

Wet rocks!

I tend to agree mechanical injury is probably the most likely way to get hurt or worse when traveling on foot.

Covered some ground. I think that's Bear Mountain in the rear view mirror but as always could be mistaken.





Hiked to the first parking spot then drove to the truck. My pack's starting weight was around 27 lb with 4 days worth of food and 1 day of water. Not sure of the pack weight when done but it was comfortable enough for me to jog the the last few hundred yards for a strong finish. A lighter pack and the last 6-months of training paid off. I normally travel alone but it was a nice change to hike with someone who was both physically capable of dragging a heavy pack over the hills, had permission from the wife to disappear for days and experienced at living out of a pack.

Here is a video of the outing.

[video=youtube;yIgfwF8nUkg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIgfwF8nUkg[/video]

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Very nice pictures. I enjoyed "seeing" your adventure. Did you have a sore back ?:)
 
Very nice pictures. I enjoyed "seeing" your adventure. Did you have a sore back ?:)

No. In fact I hardly noticed the hills. Been training for the last 8 months. :) I am sure my friend paid a price for his heavier pack, mine was under 30 lbs.
 
Great pictures! Must have been a great experience, thanks for posting!

May I ask what were the Tarps and Hammocks? Brand, model, etc.? Really interested in finding a great 12x12 or so tarp and a good hammock, the ones I use are 20 years old and quite beat up and yours seem comfortable, packable and good material! . Thanks!
 
Great pictures! Must have been a great experience, thanks for posting!

May I ask what were the Tarps and Hammocks? Brand, model, etc.? Really interested in finding a great 12x12 or so tarp and a good hammock, the ones I use are 20 years old and quite beat up and yours seem comfortable, packable and good material! . Thanks!

Those where Hennessy hammocks (Explorer DLX and Backpacker Asym) with standard rainfly. The other tarp was my Equinox poncho. However I do use an Equinox silnylon 10x12 tarp with my HH and it works very nice.
 
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