LM Warranty Replacement and A Brief Initial Impression

Steely_Gunz

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First of all, let me say that I am floored by the warranty department of LM. I had always heard that it was good, but I never tried it out. I figured it would be a pretty lengthy turn around time, so I never bothered with it.

A little back story:
My wife purchased a Leatherman Surge back in 2005 for me as a bit of a wedding gift. There was nothing special about this one, she just knew I had wanted one since they were new on the market then. Long story short, I liked it pretty well. However, the jaws always seemed to stick when you tried to close it. They would wedge between the bits, and you'd have to give the handles a good squeeze to snap them shut. No big deal, but annoying so it became my workbench tool when I wasn't carrying anything else on me.

For 6 years, the Surge with the sticky jaws worked just fine. Over time I lost the file and saw, arched a spark hot enough to cut a gouge down the jaws, and completely lost the tiny springs that hold the bits in place. However, the blades always worked, the pliers always gripped, and the tool was always more than capable to do what I asked of it.

After a lot of procrastination, I decided that I would send it in to see what LM would do with it. I filled out the form and told them about the tiny springs (I had inquired about getting them from LM before but was told that I would have to ship the tool to them to get them replaced). I mailed it out last Friday afternoon priority mail and was told by the PO that it would reach LM on Monday.

It's exactly a week to the day from when I MAILED the tool, and sitting in front of me is a brand new Surge with an manufacture date of September 2010 (funny since my old one was manufactured in September of 2005:D). Incredibly impressed. :thumbup:

Now for some comparison to the old tool:
First of all, the sticking jaws are GONE. El zippo issues with all the different bits I have tried. The tool has some new-tool stiffness to it, but it'll break in. The pliers jaws meet up perfectly flush on all sides. All bits and blades lock into place with authority and zero wiggle. All and all, a very to spec tool. It looks like they have worked the kinks out of the design since 2005.

There are a couple things I have noticed. Streamlining the process has yielded a tool that has lots of manufacturing and casting lines. There is a lot more slop regarding the finish, but it's a user and in no way affects functionality. I'm still not a fan of the brushed finish LM has elected to give their tools since 2004, but it seems serviceable if more prone to rust. I was also hoping they would have done away with the chintzy tiny springs holding in the bits and gone with a more robust design like what is found on the Skeletool. That said, these are minor gripes. LM has hooked me up with a quality tool with absolutely no run around or hassles.

Color me incredibly impressed:thumbup:
 
Good to hear. I just put a dead Super Tool 200 in the mail to them today with an expected arrival of Monday as well. Did a sheath come with your new Surge by chance?
 
no sheath, but they did replace the saw...no file though. But that's more than fair. They didn't break..I just lost them:p
 
On lighter note. I have cut myself twice in the last 5 minutes. Not on the blade mind you. The edges of the tool are a WEE bit unpolished:D Nothing that won't smooth out over time...but ouchie. Steel "paper cut".:o
 
LM warranty is top notch. The only problem I have is that I'm finding I need to use it for every LM I own that isn't Micra.
 
LM warranty is top notch. The only problem I have is that I'm finding I need to use it for every LM I own that isn't Micra.

:eek: What do you do with them causing that kind of breakdown rate?
My experience has so far been much different, with only one of many different Leatherman models passing through my hands during more than a decade needing warranty service because of a factory defect, a minor one, at that. Another had been seriously abused by me, but they fixed it under warranty anyway. Maybe mine get used for lighter duty than yours. :confused:
 
I'm a LM guy. I tend gravitate toward their product due to features and build quality. Plus, I can pick them up in most big box stores. That said, I have not been as big of a fan of their QC since the 2004 revamp. My new Surge, to be brutally honest, isn't as finely finished as my first one. I never once cut myself with the edge of the tool like I did twice with this one.
 
Great news about the Leatherman warranty. I have a Surge as well, and I'm slowly working the burrs off the edges & making it easier to use. (I got the idea from another member here (Glockman99, I think?) to use the diamond file to work down the edges. Works like a charm.)That brushed finish makes mine kind of slippery. Number 0608 stamped in mine, so I assume it's June of 2008 manufacture.

So, when you gonna get a pink one for your daughter? :)

~Chris
 
I took some fine wet/dry sandpaper to my surges handles and smoothed them out. Also wrapped a sharpmaker rod in the paper and finished the edges on the SQL and scissors to a smooth, even shine. Then knocked any sharp corners off the tools with the fine rods.
 
:eek: What do you do with them causing that kind of breakdown rate?
My experience has so far been much different, with only one of many different Leatherman models passing through my hands during more than a decade needing warranty service because of a factory defect, a minor one, at that. Another had been seriously abused by me, but they fixed it under warranty anyway. Maybe mine get used for lighter duty than yours. :confused:

My Wave alone had broken scissors. Broken plier head. And now a broken blade stop pin thing. The plier head broke because it was being used. The blade stop pin never seemed to be abused. It kind of does its thing unnoticed. Until the part falls out. The scissors, I don't know. I never used them. They just cracked off one day. Not to mention the battle with rust.

Leatherman makes good on its warranty, no questions asked. This isn't in doubt. But I'd rather have a tool that doesn't need to take advantage of the warranty, like any of my Vics.
 
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