Location of Spyder numbers

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JD Spydo

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Most Spyderco folders have their collector number close to the Spyderhole on the side of the blade. Most Spyderco fixed blades have their numbers close to the ricasso or where the blade tang meets the handle.

However there are exceptions. For instance the Original C-67 "R" knife folder has it's collector number on the spine of the blade. Also the first fixed blade Perrin model also had it's number on the spine.

Is anyone aware of any other odd collector number placement on Spyderco blades? Also when did they quit stamping the numbers on the blades and started laser etching them instead. OK what's the deal? And are there any other forms of identification that they use for special Spyders?
 
Interesting question.......

The Diver has its serial number on the reverse (clip) side of the handle:

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The Probe's number is also on the handle near the pivot on the obverse side near the drainage slit.

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I believe certain Qs also have unusually placed numbers due to the patterns around the hole and different logos. I'm away from home but the sheepfoot NYC and Blade magazine Qs seem to stand out as different to me.

Oh yeah.....the C27 Jess Horn is nowhere near a hole! :D It's below the opening nick - actually on the grind if I recollect right....



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J
 
java said:
I believe certain Qs also have unusually placed numbers due to the patterns around the hole and different logos. I'm away from home but the sheepfoot NYC and Blade magazine Qs seem to stand out as different to me.

Oh yeah.....the C27 Jess Horn is nowhere near a hole! :D It's below the opening nick - actually on the grind if I recollect right....



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J
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You're right about some of the Q's Java, but on the C27 Horn, or at least the one I have, the collectors number is on the left bolster. :barf:
 

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Well I'm glad I asked what some may perceive a "dumb question" :o I have never had one of the C-27 Jess Horns and I had no idea that the collector number would have been on the bolster. I bet that's the only model that had that distinction?

Now I have owned a couple of the White Micarta Jess Horns and it's number was stamped on the blade in the regular place. AT least it was on the larger White Micarta Horn model. The smaller White Micarta Horn I had didn't have a number but I assume it would have been the same deal.

I had also never owned one of the Spyderco "Diver Probe" knives. So I didn't even have a clues as to how they would have done that one. Very interesting indeed. Now weren't there 2 variations of the the Diver Probe?

I don't recall seeing any details of the "collector numbering" in the Spyderco Story Book but then again that's a big book and I could have missed it.

So I guess I was right assuming that the Original "R" knife and the first fixed blade Perrin were the only models with numbers on the spine. I'd like to know because I'd hate to not know if there is indeed another model that they numbered that way.

If there is something else I'm missing then please tell me where? Thanks Guys :)
 
JD,

I'm not sure where the number is on the SPOT or the damascus Evo Workers either. I'll have to check my collection when I return home from South Carolina. I would assume the Mini-Probe is marked similar to the Probe but that's one Spyie that got away from me. (There is a regular Probe up on e-bay currently, BTW)


The Deacon said:
You're right about some of the Q's Java, but on the C27 Horn, or at least the one I have, the collectors number is on the left bolster. :barf:
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Paul,

From your post's fulmination
I sense deep frustration
Whereupon the location
Of your Horn's numeration
I've no explanation
For my iteration
Whose number location
Is in variation
'Tis an abomination
This bolster location
No ordination coordination
For the Horn collaboration
Yet I'd like to help you end your consternation
Send that Jess Horn to Java without hesitation :D


J
 
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The CC# on my SPOT is on the handle, above and to the rear of the index finger hole.

David
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Which SPOT model do you have David? Is it the plain metal AUS-6 model or is it the Micarta handled VG-10 model.

Perhaps there's no difference in number location anyway but my Micarta version really seems a lot different than the AUS-6 model does.

These SPOT models are truly to be destined collector's items because they are already getting impossible to find. I've been trying to find a serrated brother to the PE version I have and they are no where to be found.
 
java said:
JD,

I'm not sure where the number is on the SPOT or the damascus Evo Workers either. I'll have to check my collection when I return home from South Carolina. I would assume the Mini-Probe is marked similar to the Probe but that's one Spyie that got away from me. (There is a regular Probe up on e-bay currently, BTW)
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java said:
Paul,

From your post's fulmination
I sense deep frustration
Whereupon the location
Of your Horn's numeration
I've no explanation
For my iteration
Whose number location
Is in variation
'Tis an abomination
This bolster location
No ordination coordination
For the Horn collaboration
Yet I'd like to help you end your consternation
Send that Jess Horn to Java without hesitation :D


J
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Java,

You are the poet laureate of the forums! :D

To be honest, I think all the "pre-laser engraving era" numbering looks like crap. But it's an order of magnitude or two more offensive on "high end" models like the C22 and C27 than on something like the Probes. The ones on the Evo Set are an abomination too.

The bolster location has its good and bad points. On the one hand it looks awful, on the other there is always the option to have a good engraver make it disappear, which is not an option when it's on the blade. The higher numbered C27 Horns are numbered on the blade as in the photo below. Not sure when the change in location occurred. FWIW, the C27 may also bear the distinction of being the only knife offered both SE and PE where the PE version was the "main" CC piece.

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JD, I have had CC#d pieces of most of the AG Russell Special Horns, both C34 size and "Baby", and they all were numbered on "flat" of the blade in front of the spyderhole. As with most things Spyderco, that's no guarantee they all are numbered there, but I'd rate it as a pretty safe assumption.
 
Now this is an apparent curve ball :confused: I guess maybe>> do I understand this correctly? They numbered some of the C-27 Jess Horn models on the bolster but then again in Deacon's picture they clearly also numbered some on the side of the blade as well??? Or do I have something misunderstood here?

Also am I correct in assuming that the only Spyders that were numbered on the Spine would have been the original R knife and the FB-04 Perrin ( first Perrin)?

Now to get the ducks sort of in a row when did they go to laser etching instead of stamping the numbers on? Seems to me like it must have been around the 2002-2003 period or what it 2004?

Just wanting to know for the purpose of organizing the collection.
 
JD Spydo said:
Now this is an apparent curve ball :confused: I guess maybe>> do I understand this correctly? They numbered some of the C-27 Jess Horn models on the bolster but then again in Deacon's picture they clearly also numbered some on the side of the blade as well??? Or do I have something misunderstood here?
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Nope, you've got it right. Just to make things even a bit cloudier though, according to some sources, ALL the C27 Jess Horns are suppose to be numbered. So much for theory, now for reality. Of the three I have, the Collector's Club #019 PE is numbered on the left bolster. The #585 SE is numbered on the left side of the blade, below the trapezoidal finger notch. And finally there is my other PE one, which has NO number. They were also all "suppose" to carry Jess Horn's signature on the blade. Two of them do, but my CC#d one does not.

Not sure when the switch to laser etching occurred. Laser etching was being used for other engraving back as far as '98. There are pictures of it in the "All God's Critters" dealer catalog. But that doesn't mean the CC#s would have been changed to it that early. Really need one of the folks who has been in the club for a while to chime in with which knife was the first to be numbered that way.
 
OK I have heard that all of the C-27 models were numbered. I had a dealer at the BLADE Show who had one for sale last summer tell me that. I do remember now being told that before.

I was also told that all of the Blue, Plain edge Spyderhawks are all numbered or they were BLADEFORUMS commemoratives which they had their own numbering on them.

Is there any other Spyders that each one made had a collector number. Come to think of it I have not yet seen a Carbon Fiber Military model with S-30V blade steel that wasn't numbered and I've had 4 of them and I've seen another 6 at least and they were all numbered.

Is there any others? Wow this has turned out to be an interesting thread. And thought it might get 3 replies at the most :)
 
JD Spydo said:
I was also told that all of the Blue, Plain edge Spyderhawks are all numbered or they were BLADEFORUMS commemoratives which they had their own numbering on them.
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In this thread:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=257183&highlight=spyderhawk

Sal gives some information about the numbering of the SpyderHawks.

The policy is that on a variation (which this is) we only number the actual number of the collector that chooses to take the vartiation. If your number was 135 and you chose the variation and 134 and 136 didn't want the variation, then #135 would be numbered on the knife and we would not number 134 or 136. In this manner, the collector that chose not to take the variation would not have numbered knives floating around with his number.

We'll put something on the rest that indicates that there were only 300 pcs made (along with the Bladeforums.com engraving).

I'm not sure that clears everything up :confused:. Somehow, I ended up with Blue Spyderhawk numbered "029 of 300".

JD Spydo said:
Is there any other Spyders that each one made had a collector number. Come to think of it I have not yet seen a Carbon Fiber Military model with S-30V blade steel that wasn't numbered and I've had 4 of them and I've seen another 6 at least and they were all numbered.
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I have a CMP S30V CF Military that has no number (collector or otherwise) on it.

JD Spydo said:
Is there any others?
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I think all CF Delica and CF Police models may have been numbered. I have a PE CF Delica numbered "292" and a SE CF Police numbered "264".
 
JD Spydo said:
Is there any other Spyders that each one made had a collector number.
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A bit of clarification is needed here JD, I don't believe there are ANY Spyderco models which fit that description. The Collectors Club currently has a maximum membership cap of 200. BUT since the cap was raised to 200, the club has never been fully subscribed, so even for "base" models, the quantity of CC#d pieces would be less than 200. HOWEVER, up until a couple years ago, ALL the knives in the first production run of any collaboration model were numbered. SO, if a collaboration model sold poorly enough to never have a second batch produced, all the pieces could conceivably be numbered, but all of the numbers would not be CC#s. I cannot say for certain that they all were marked, but I have never seen a C22 Klotzli Walker that was not numbered.

There are a few other models that would also have all the pieces numbered. The CF Police, CF Delica, WTC knife, 20th Anniversary Worker, and the 25th Anniversary Delica come to mind, but there may be others.
 
Now I am really baffled. Particularly with the S-30V, Carbon Fiber Military model. From what I've heard from 3 sources was that there were only 400 of that model made. With that few of them I can for the life of me figure why they wouldn't just go ahead and number all of a run with that few of them made :confused: ?

Well I'm glad I raised this question because it sure cleared the air with some of these obscure models with weird number locations and the straight scoop on what numbering was actually done on most Spyders.

So there are only 2 models that were numbered on the spine.

And there are 2 that were numbered on the bolster. OK were learning
 
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