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lock ?'s
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compression lock ( Spyderco Lil Temp )
integral compression lock ( Spyderco ATR or Ti Salsa)
liner lock ( Spyderco Military )
integral liner lock (Chris Reeve Sebenza)
frame lock (Strider SnG)
front lock (Spyderco Delica)
back lock (Buck 110)
axis lock (most Benchmades)
ball lock (Spyderco DoDo)
integral compression lock ( Spyderco ATR or Ti Salsa)
liner lock ( Spyderco Military )
integral liner lock (Chris Reeve Sebenza)
frame lock (Strider SnG)
front lock (Spyderco Delica)
back lock (Buck 110)
axis lock (most Benchmades)
ball lock (Spyderco DoDo)
thanks for the feedback but i still sdon't understand that differences..which are stronger..example: on the bob lum leaf design it seems that it doesn't take mcuh to open..almost seems that it assists me in opening it..is there a way to read an explanation about what the different functions of the different of locks???????
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Actually this second question is a hard one that is not easy to answer because there are so many variables in volved.
For example, the Lum chinese is easy to open becasue :
- Good leverage on the blade
- smooth due to washers
- smooth due to perhaps less pressure on the blade from the liner.
Take now for instance a FRN endura:
- not quite as smooth as there is no washers
- leverage is good
- top lock now applies pressure against the width of the tang, so it will have a different feel from the Lum as it's lock pressure is against the side.
Now lets sat ATR:
- leverage + because of cobra hood
- washers so it's smooth
- heavy blafe though so it's a littler tougher to get started
- lock puts pressure on the side of th blade like the LUm.
So as you can see each knife will be just a little bit different. I there's probably no location that says, Oh this lock open easily because of blah, blah, blah. You have to take all these factors in to account to be able to understand what makes a blade easy and smooth to open.
This still doesn't address what lock is stronger. That's an endless debate. You can make broad generalizations but that's almost useless as it depends entirely on the execution. Some say framelock is best for example, but I ran across a $450 framelock that would slip when you applied a bit of pressure to the back of the blade. As you get more experience you'll realize those types of questions just don't have an answer.
You first question about what kind of locks there are is un answerable too because there is probably an infinite number of them. Though the previous list is a pretty good sample. Except for this correction:
frame lock (Chris Reeve Sebenza)
For example, the Lum chinese is easy to open becasue :
- Good leverage on the blade
- smooth due to washers
- smooth due to perhaps less pressure on the blade from the liner.
Take now for instance a FRN endura:
- not quite as smooth as there is no washers
- leverage is good
- top lock now applies pressure against the width of the tang, so it will have a different feel from the Lum as it's lock pressure is against the side.
Now lets sat ATR:
- leverage + because of cobra hood
- washers so it's smooth
- heavy blafe though so it's a littler tougher to get started
- lock puts pressure on the side of th blade like the LUm.
So as you can see each knife will be just a little bit different. I there's probably no location that says, Oh this lock open easily because of blah, blah, blah. You have to take all these factors in to account to be able to understand what makes a blade easy and smooth to open.
This still doesn't address what lock is stronger. That's an endless debate. You can make broad generalizations but that's almost useless as it depends entirely on the execution. Some say framelock is best for example, but I ran across a $450 framelock that would slip when you applied a bit of pressure to the back of the blade. As you get more experience you'll realize those types of questions just don't have an answer.
You first question about what kind of locks there are is un answerable too because there is probably an infinite number of them. Though the previous list is a pretty good sample. Except for this correction:
frame lock (Chris Reeve Sebenza)
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DaveH, Sal Glesser corrected me once on that, and said that the official name (coming from Chris Reeve) for the lock on a Sebenza is an 'integral liner lock'
For example, the SS Cricket in the Spyderco catalog has a 'Chris Reeve style Integral LinerLock'
On the Chris Reeve site however, I found the following quote for the Sebenza:
>I redesigned the concept and have created the Sebenza Integral Lock© which I believe to be the most rugged folding knife on the market
So - "frame lock", "integral lock", or "integral linerlock" ?
Ted
For example, the SS Cricket in the Spyderco catalog has a 'Chris Reeve style Integral LinerLock'
On the Chris Reeve site however, I found the following quote for the Sebenza:
>I redesigned the concept and have created the Sebenza Integral Lock© which I believe to be the most rugged folding knife on the market
So - "frame lock", "integral lock", or "integral linerlock" ?
Ted