Lock Strength Test - Espada vs WildSteer WX

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The latest lock strength challenge!
By popular demand - We test the WildSteer WX!
How will this triple-locked outdoor survival folder compete against our Navaja-inspired Espada?
 
I certainly wasn't impressed enough to even consider a Wildsteer. Gimmicky is the word that comes to mind.
 
Not bad, thanks for the video keep them coming.

Cold steel I dare you to test the buck 830 marksman

You have been DARED good sirs

ZTD
 
What the heck was that complicated lock/handle mechanism? Looks like a less useful version of the pocket bushman
 
I tested one a while back. not an impact resistant lock. durable but fails pretty readily with impacts. I still love the design. it is just not heavy duty.

ZeroTurnDude said:
Not bad, thanks for the video keep them coming.

Cold steel I dare you to test the buck 830 marksman

You have been DARED good sirs

ZTD
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Spine whack and weight hanging created forces in the same direction. Now I know I wouldn't get the wildsteer because it's too soft. It was on big sale a few weeks back and I was actually considering this steam punkish looking lock knife. Lol. Maybe the discount will now be even higher :D

Still wouldn't the test be even more interesting if it where to be done in all four directions? Hanging weight from the edge side as well as from the flats/cheeks in addition to the demonstration from the spine side?
 
Jens Schuetz said:
Spine whack and weight hanging created forces in the same direction. Now I know I wouldn't get the wildsteer because it's too soft. It was on big sale a few weeks back and I was actually considering this steam punkish looking lock knife. Lol. Maybe the discount will now be even higher :D

Still wouldn't the test be even more interesting if it where to be done in all four directions? Hanging weight from the edge side as well as from the flats/cheeks in addition to the demonstration from the spine side?
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Why mess with the weight of the added materials needed to incorporate the lock? The Tri-Ad lock works well, it's simple, and conserves on the weight as well. Some of the knives with the G-10 scales and no liners can hold from 320-400 lbs. The knives with liners hold up to 600 lbs. If we need to hang more than engine blocks from the locks of our folding knives, I think a fixed blade would easily suffice.
 
DesertDrifter said:
Why mess with the weight of the added materials needed to incorporate the lock? The Tri-Ad lock works well, it's simple, and conserves on the weight as well. Some of the knives with the G-10 scales and no liners can hold from 320-400 lbs. The knives with liners hold up to 600 lbs. If we need to hang more than engine blocks from the locks of our folding knives, I think a fixed blade would easily suffice.
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I never wanted to add any weight to any lock :(
Just curious how these locks hold up in the other directions since the tests in the video only applied forces in the direction from spine to edge
 
That's because that's the only way in which the lock is solely responsible for holding the load.

Turn it up the other way and the load is going on the lock pin, which puts the load into the handle not the lock bar. Turn it side on and it's the strength of the blade that's being tested.
 
Freman Bloodglaive said:
That's because that's the only way in which the lock is solely responsible for holding the load.

Turn it up the other way and the load is going on the lock pin, which puts the load into the handle not the lock bar. Turn it side on and it's the strength of the blade that's being tested.
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True it's not only the lock involved.
Still curious how well the other components, the knife as a whole hold up with ridiculous forces from the other sides. Can't be the only one ☺

Most people tend to put most force on the edge but no test for that direction? Only extreme spine whacking? Can this be enough of a test?

Some guys might like prying and for them it would be interesting to see how much force it takes to make the pivot wobbly.

Actually to built something for my kids I used a cheap folder to cut a shape into a cardboard (banana) box. Forcing it in curves through this thick material made it all wobbly. Even a knife with a lock strong against spine whacking might have given in since the forces came from the front and the sides.
Any CS knife would most likely have held up but without a test for these directions we just don't know how much superior it really is compared to other folders in a scenario more based on real life than spine whacking alone.
 
Cold steel has some YouTube videos where they put an extreme side load on the blade. I can't remember which knife models they test this way, but I'm sure you can find them.
 
There are no standardized tests in this industry, so we created our own. The ones shown here represent shock and load tests on the lock alone.
As Andrew so eloquently put it, this is a "lock measuring contest" :)
We have other tests with other criteria. Maybe Lynn will decide to share those too. But for now, it's all about the locks
 
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