Lock up complaints

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Jccrigger

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This is how I see this issue after several months of consideration, people complain about locks and if they wiggle just a little they complain but mostly it bugs me to no end when they stab something like a tree for example and the lock fails they say this isn't a good knife, much less if they had to defend there lives with it, now what they don't understand is in a self defense application that person will not be made of wood there made of flesh and bone. When you stabe a tree the tree doesn't have much give in flexing, now a human being is another issue, is there anyone else who sees this point of view also?
 
I've never stabbed a tree and had a lock fail. In fact I'm confident all my tested tree stabbing knives will hold up when stabbing man or beast.
 
Over the past year it seems everyone demands 100% perfection ( often unreasonable perfection) . Most not knowing how to adjust a knife or let a knife break in.
Its just the way we are, some are calm about it. Many are not.
The knife community and market has changed alot. No going back now lol.
But it has made for many improvements and amazing new designs/standards.
Many knives are tuff as heck. My favorite is my CRK. And some ZT and Spyderco Knives.
Yes if a knife fails a light spine whack or light pressure that is not acceptable.
That is about as much as I can say without writing a horrible book with bad spelling.
I stopped stabbing trees with expensive knives years ago. Why hurt a tree anyway?
Matt
 
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Tree stabbed with great force and no lock failure!

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Bone is harder than wood. I used to be in the backwoods as a kid all of the time. Setting knives on the ground is a terrible idea. Back then pocket clips were almost unheard of, as was the concept of one handed closing. My knives ended up stuck in trees regularly.

In before the Opinel guys start calling everyone else mall ninjas and throwing punches.

Sunk deep with no lock failure. :D
 
What kills me is to look at a utube video of someone either whacking the spine until it fails or splitting wood with folders and give a review on how the knife performed. It's a different generation now and I guess they think that's what you do with a knife now a days. When I did go camping there was a hatchet, machete and camp knives for different tasks. I guess most folks don't think about using their knife for a weapon. There's that one article where a father fought off a mountain lion off his son using a Caly 3. I bet he didn't think about his knife as a weapon before that experience. It only takes one event in your life to realize the importance of having a good knife in your pocket. Most knifes that are properly used and cared for will serve well without flaw. That's where knowing the knife you have is so important. And you're right, if it has a little wiggle anywhere, some thing it's a piece of garbage. Don't forget, most of those folks are urbanites and have very little experience with real world situations. Can't fault them at all, I'm just glad the world of knife people are all types, sizes and genders.
 
I think it has to do with someone setting a standard for what is considered perfect. Once someone makes a knife that has tight tolerances and zero blade play, people start expecting other companies to have the same standards. It's the whole "If company X can do it, why can't company Y?"
 
I've never done any spine whacking or 'Lock testing" but i have beat my folders way past what they are made for. But at the same time i don't try to chop down a tree. i have however done what i see as reasonable tasks for a good sturdy folder like my CS Voyager such as splitting small kindling, chop through small trees, branch, bush ect. and its held up to such use for over a year and a half. it recently got wiggly and yes i am looking to get a new knife because of the play in the blade but its not because i think its bad quality. for me having play in a blade just drives me crazy. I in no way down talk the Knife because its got play, personally i think if i knife that I've used for a year and half with out any problems it deserves a trophy lol.
 
First tree I ever took down with a folder was a 20' alder (widow maker). Stabbed the hell out of that tree with my MOD for a year. Eventually I found that MFs jugular and put it down for the count...no effin lock failure neither. Currently involved with a 2 year fight to the death with my ZT 0560 stabbing the bark out of a 30' oak. 2 years in and no effin lock failure. If a tree needs stabin....I prefer an over built folder.
 
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