Lockback Whittler - my first Schatt & Morgan knife!

[supratentorial]

After a few days of anticipation (seemed like weeks!) I received my first Schatt and Morgan knife! A lockback whittler from 2008. It's a bit fancier than what I normally use but I find the pattern interesting and I wanted something different.

The finish is excellent and the bone looks much better in person than in the photos. Also the blades are highly polished but look dark in the scans. There is some blade rub on the coping and pen blades which make contact with the liners. Both of these blades have almost no pull at all which was disappointing. This is a complex pattern and a 3 year old model so I'm willing to cut some slack. I'm guessing this is not the norm for Schatt & Morgan knives but is it acceptable for this pattern? Should I send it back? The clip point master blade has good pull and the lock is solid.

My first Schatt and Morgan knife!

Much fancier than most of my users.

Two humpbacks back-to-back.

Split backspring.

 

[Campbellclanman]

supratentorial,
I think that knife you have is a beauty!, I have knives that have good hard pull on them, then others that are nearly damned impossible to open, and...on the other end of the scale...I have a few knives that are extremely easy to open.
I have to admit, I am liking the easier opening knives more and more, I began by liking the more harder pull strength, but now Im over it to be honest, both my GEC's were quite hard but with time and constant use..they are perfect...if your lovely new S&M knife was mine...I wouldnt change a single thing.
The slight rub is nothing to worry about, the fit and finish is great..not to mention that stunning bone...for a smaller costing production knife, I realy do think you have scored a very, very nice knife.

 

[supratentorial]

Thanks! I think I'm going to keep her. I like it too much to give it back.

 

[cnas122]

That's a nice one. Don't worry about the blade rub, but if you think the springs are too light, then I would maybe consider seeing if S&M can do anything about it. It's a personal preference. I can't stand blades with super light pulls...I lean towards the monster snappers. Although different patterns and in no way related, some of the case/bose lockback whittler collabs had problems with spring tension on the smaller blades. I had 3 or 4 friends have to send them back to Case.

 

[Will Power]

It's a really interesting and unusual knife, copy of an old pattern of nearly 100 years ago I believe. I've been thinking about one for sometime, although I have heard elsewhere of issues such as weak snap,gaps and rub. Complex knife.

 

[comoha]

Some real unique geometry to that funky whittler. Its growing on me.

 

[supratentorial]

The Case/Bose lockback whittler was the knife that led me to this one. I don't have one but it is at the top of my list.

willgoy, it's a reproduction of an old Remington. I found a catalog scan on web. It's actually a pretty good likeness.
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/download/file.php?id=35147&mode=view

 

[supratentorial]

Another photo

 

[GRIM 62]

Neat design,I really like that bone.

 

[Modoc ED]

What a great looking Whittler. I'd say the blade rub is (as others have said) nothing to worry about. The handles look great. I sure wouldn't send it back -- no telling what you might get back.

 

[Peter Parker]

I never seen that one before! The scales are just plain beautiful!

 

[knowtracks]

Nice knife supratentorial!
The Premier line is 1 of my favs from Queen. I really dig the Goldenroot bone with n/s liners& pins. The NY tang stamp is another Premier exclusive. This particular knife Queen had a bunch of trouble with. Our old friend Clarence Risner, who has the Premier line was ready to give up on this patten after about 2 1/2 years. I know this knife had some problems with the main blade but this is the 1st I've heard about the secondary blades. I hate no snap & would probably send it back to Queen, but that's just me.

Dave

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

:thumbup:
Very nice whittler. I hadn't even known there were any production (even limited) versions of these. Yours looks beautiful.

A few years ago, I bought a custom lockback whittler by a gentleman named Paul Myers. Got it thru a consignment dealer, not directly from Mr. Myers. I haven't seen or heard much about his work. But, it's a beautiful and intriguing knife, and I've been somewhat fascinated by this pattern since acquiring that knife.

 

[supratentorial]

Thanks for the background and info! I did a search for Paul Myers and found his website and a photo of his lockback whittler - very cool!

http://webpages.charter.net/pmknives/

 

[supratentorial]

The Remington that the Schatt & Morgan whittler is modeled after:













I wish that it was mine but the seller wants 10Gs.

 

[aplehr1]

I wish that it was mine but the seller wants 10Gs.

I saw that auction - wow. Nice knife, but 10g's?

 

[supratentorial]

I learned that Queen also made similar knives under the Colonel Coon brand. They have the same strange geometry (I agree with you, comoha) but unfortunately they are not locking. They made them in stripe mica pearl, autumn gold smooth bone and stag. I just bought this one.

The Schatt and Morgan and Colonel Coon knives are probably as close as I'll ever get to the Remington.

 

[supratentorial]

I got the Colonel Coon whittler today and was surprised by its size! I had thought it would be the same size as the Schatt & Morgan lockback whittler but its scaled down to 3 1/8" in length - just a wee little whittler. The fit and finish is on par with the Schatt & Morgan whittler and the two are quite similar besides the difference in size and that it does have a split spring rather than a lock back.