Lockbacks, traditional linerlocks and regular old slipjoints

silenthunterstudios

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Please bear with me, only knife nuts make these distinctions. Most people I know call any slipjoint an old Case knife, any lockback an old Buck knife and if they come across any old liner lock they usually have some expletives I will not share here to say.

I've had a few nice examples of old timey lockbacks, linerlocks and slipjoint variations of said knives. Mainly GEC and Queen. I am OCD in regards to the blade wobble on lockbacks, have an almost vampiric aversion to liner locks, almost treating it as a vampire would the sun, and usually prefer slipjoint versions of both preceding locking mechanisms.

I grew up using an old Schrade 7OT lockback, Schrade's answer to the 110 craze. I've never cared for the 110 except for the custom shop versions, customized versions, and David Yellowhorse's creations. Someone on the Schrade forum here was very nice enough to send me a 70T replacement, I had a LB7? at one time, saved from certain junk yard obscurity by my pop. I broke the blade on my original 7OT, sharpened a crude point on it, and later sold it on the evil auction site. I tried to use the famous 110 but it was not for me. Large knives never bothered me until I started using the peanut and kind of had an epiphany.

I originally liked the Queen Mountain Man lockback, read an article on the Remington bullet lock back in Tactical Knives of all places (when they were in their bushcraft period). I started an obsession with the Remington reproductions, foolishly thinking that if I couldn't afford the original 1930s model, I could certainly afford the 1984 reproduction from Camillus.

Stupidity abounds. I traded for the 1984 1303, to add to my Mountain Man and 1306. I bought a slipjoint Mountain Man version, and then saw my Grail, unattainable for me at the time, an Hiroki Ohta 1306 slipjoint. Too large for my needs, I'm not tossing on a mackinaw and going for a walk with my trusty 1306. After a while, the 1303 and 1306 and lockback MM went on their way.

I was pretty excited about the 1306 style lockbacks coming out from Case, the Bose 2016 collaborations. After carrying the peanut, I just don't know. I'm going smaller with fixed blades and folders that I use. I am sure if these knives were slipjoint versions, I'd be all over them. On the other hand, I heard through the grapevine from a dealer that the idea of a lockback Zulu/Tribal Spear has been bounced around. There are so many flipper, frame lock, liner lock and lockback custom Zulus out there from different makers, I wouldn't put it past Case to try out a lockback version. I'm excited about that, I thought that would be 2016s model.

I don't know why one of my favorite patterns, the 1306, which Steven Dick could write an article so well that sold the knife perfectly, with the right amount of history and flash and substance, doesn't set my bells ringing. But a possible, probably a pipe dream, rumor of a lockback Zulu can take up my thoughts late at night.

This is all just wishful thinking. What is your preference, lockbacks? Linerlocks? Slipjoints?

Even as clumsy as I am, with diabetic neuropathy, early carpal tunnel and beginnings of nerve damage (quite inconvenient when your fingers lock up), I have been able to manipulate slipjoints and small fixed blades. Heck, it can't be this bad if I could type all of this drivel while on lunch break. My father is an auto upholsterer, and he used to be able to squeeze my fingers with his fingers. He wasn't hurting me, but it felt like a vise at my young age of 8-10. He got old, as it goes for those lucky enough, and he found my little brothers Tidioute 72, and started carrying it, after he lost his umpteenth peanut, an old Schrade I found for him. He says he prefers the lockback, even though the knife is way too big for him.
 
I feel you on the smaller knives. Ive got a buck 112 that i absolutely love, unfortunately ive got too many things in my pockets and ive got to choose between it and a peanut. The peanut wins every time.

I also know what you mean about the hand troubles. Ive got carpel tunnel, arthritus and nerve damage, all at the ripe old age of 26. But for some reason, that peanut is easy for me to open. Go figure
 
I prefer kickbacks, slipjoint said, and liner locks, pretty much in that order(really depends on the knife tho'). I do generally carry a fixie with a blade in the 3"-4" size, as well as assorted others. You should check out A.G. Russell's traditional type knives(his personal brand) as he has a few with zulu spear blades. A nice example of a locking Barlow I'd love for myself just sold on the trad. exchange. One nice thing as well is that his knives usually come in several cover choices. They are reasonably priced as well. YMMV.
Thanks , Neal
 
AG carried a Zulu, with two nail nicks that I really liked. 90 bucks I believe.

Fishcakes, I was complaining about all of these ailments at 37, I feel for you man.
 
The Barlow is nice as well. Sorry that first post was so garbled, don't know what happened.
Neal
 
I'm not faithful to any one type... If I like the look of a knife and how it works in hand then, backsprings or locking mechanisms mean little.

I'm not keen on a heavy knife in ordinary trouser pockets, they're OK for top-coats etc. I abhor carrying folding knives in belt sheathes, uh no point for me at least.

Today I've been carrying a Tidioute 83 lockback in Purple Sage. I find this a really ideal knife, compact, lightweight with a decent sized drop-point (some come with Clips too but I prefer the low riding profile of the DP) It has no side to side movement and a very smooth lockup so it feels very well made. Plenty of handle choices and as I say, a great size between small and medium., easy to open and close, very reassuring.

Thanks, Will
 
Aesthetically, I like slipjoints. In practice, I think lockbacks tend to have a nice advantage in their ease of opening. I have a few old school liner locks, which I describe as being slipjoints with a lock that doesn't necessarily wedge against the blade tang. Of the three, I carry these the least. Though a significant factor there is that I prefer the patterns of slipjoint and lockback that I own over liner lock patterns I own.

One thing I really like about slipjoints is the ease of closing. Ease of opening seems to be a common deciding factor among knife users. But ease of closing rarely seems to come up. This is where lockbacks start to fall short for me. Mid locks help the situation, but I have no traditionals with a mid lock, and they seem to be few among traditional lockbacks.

I also tend toward knives that are about 3.5" closed or shorter. Especially since I mostly pocket carry. I'll make exceptions for larger knives that pocket well. The Case slimline trapper is a good example.
 
A knife with a blade that is easily pinched open, will be opened by my lazy self one handed, and will be easier to close one handed if it has a half stop.
 
AG carried a Zulu, with two nail nicks that I really liked. 90 bucks I believe.

Fishcakes, I was complaining about all of these ailments at 37, I feel for you man.

It is what it is man. You do what you can. Im just glad my hands work with what i put em through.

Also, i have a serious mistrust of liner locks. Seen too many bent ones to ever feel comfortable with using any(except for the ones on tl 29s, those things are tanks)
 
Slipjoints I can pinch open are my preference.Our law requires good reason to carry a fixed or locking knife.Carried a slipjoint for fifty plus years ,that won't change any time soon.
 
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