Locks are tough, but is the knife?

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So I had started a thread about getting a Benchmade Bone collector. The only thing holding me back is. When doing a test on the Kershaw Packrat, A lock test that is, the liner lock never gave, and that was me hitting against oak wood as hard as I could. I was impressed to say the least that the liner lock didn't fail. I was less impressed that the blade had bladeplay after this test. So, I am told that the Axis lock can hold 600 pounds ( negative pressure I assume ) but is say I am skinning a deer and need to do some hard pressing through the rib cage will the whole knife construction still hold? Or is I do a lock test on it is it going to develope blade play?
Thanks
Steeley
 
I don't think smacking a knife against wood as hard as you can falls under "normal" use. If you keep the knife just to skinning it shouldn't be a problem. Also, I find that blade play with Axis locks are mostly just due to a loose pivot, which is easily remedied with a little blue loctite.
 
Beating the hell out of any knife runs the possibility of blade play or lock failure. Any well executed lock from a reputable maker is going to stand up to anything you'll do to it through normal and occasional rough use.
 
Thanks. I suppose there is a reason Cold steel puts in their videos that it is abuse to the knife haha.
 
What possible task, even under extreme conditions, would you possibly find yourself in a scenario that would possibly replicate someone (you) smashing a blade as hard as you possibly could into hardwood.

ANY knife can and will fail if put under enough preassure. Just be careful during these tests, one could hurt themselves doing such things.
 
SteeleySawyer said:
The only thing holding me back is. When doing a test on the Kershaw Packrat, A lock test that is, the liner lock never gave, and that was me hitting against oak wood as hard as I could. I was impressed to say the least that the liner lock didn't fail. I was less impressed that the blade had bladeplay after this test.
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The AXIS lock and the Benchmade will do fine, just as the Kershaw would have had you not abused it.
Are you seriously surprised the Kershaw had blade play after your ""test""? :confused:

Buy an AXE, and use the knife for what it was designed for... to cut something. :)

Just my opinion, YMMV.
 
teacher said:
The AXIS lock and the Benchmade will do fine, just as the Kershaw would have had you not abused it.
Are you seriously surprised the Kershaw had blade play after your ""test""? :confused:

Buy an AXE, and use the knife for what it was designed for... to cut something. :)

Just my opinion, YMMV.
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Good point. And no I cant say I was surprised at all. I am realizing more and more the true folly of my ways haha.
Thanks guys
Steeley
 
Reznik572 said:
What possible task, even under extreme conditions, would you possibly find yourself in a scenario that would possibly replicate someone (you) smashing a blade as hard as you possibly could into hardwood.
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You could find yourself needing to defend yourself against a hickory that is trying to mug you.
 
The negative pressure by hanging a weight on the blade to test the lock and the pressure of a cutting force are two totally different things ... right ? ...............

I have no idea why you would be trying to go through a rib cage with a field folder.

CS strikes again!
 
I agree with Sargent 666. There is a difference between "lock strength" and "lock reliability". Everyone needs a reliable lock, one that will not unlock accidentally because it did not catch properly. Few need a super strong lock, one that cannot be physically broken. Considering that folks have skinned deer with slipjoints, I think a reliable lock is all you need. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
I have no idea why anyone would need to put negative forces on a lock while field dressing a deer. Or any other time, really.




Sargent 666 said:
I have no idea why you would be trying to go through a rib cage with a field folder.

CS strikes again!
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Why not? It isnt like it is a big deal. Just zip the knife up, right alongside the sternum through the cartilage. If the knife is sharp its like unzipping a huge zipper. (Kind of). Nothing that I would consider abuse. I did it with a Buck 110 for years.
 
Tripton said:
I have no idea why anyone would need to put negative forces on a lock while field dressing a deer. Or any other time, really.







Why not? It isnt like it is a big deal. Just zip the knife up, right alongside the sternum through the cartilage. If the knife is sharp its like unzipping a huge zipper. (Kind of). Nothing that I would consider abuse. I did it with a Buck 110 for years.
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Understood. When I first read it I was thinking he was talking about the bones. I should have read it better.
 
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